perl5-porters@perl.org discussions for June 2011

58	Is Perl's newline mangling on Win32 necessary?

On Win32 Perl automatically adds the :crlf layer to a number of filehandles. This causes a great many problems for a lot of Perl code, since constructs like $fh- binmode; and $s =~ s/\r//g; have to ...

Christian Walde
Jun 28, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Aug 2, 2011 at 6:04 pm

32	git merge no-ff references

In the thread on squashing, "git merge --no-ff" was suggested. I did a little research and it's an interesting idea. Here are some links I found useful: * ...

David Golden
Jun 13, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Jul 25, 2011 at 3:04 am

30	Version::Requirements and case-sens

When we added Version::Requirements to the core (to support CPAN::Meta) we encountered a problem: its installation to lib/Version/Requirements.pm conflicted with lib/version/Internals.* We decided ...

Ricardo Signes
Jun 29, 2011 at 1:02 am
Jul 1, 2011 at 12:59 am

26	Perl 5.14.1 is now available

At this point I'm no longer working for a company that makes me sign my life away, but by now I'm in the habit. Besides, I still harbor the deep-down suspicion that nobody would pay money for what I ...

Jesse Vincent
Jun 17, 2011 at 2:40 am
Jun 26, 2011 at 5:22 pm

23	RFC: Handling utf8 locales

Perl has never handled multi-byte locales, including utf8 ones. But it appears that more and more locales come as utf8 variants, such as ZA.utf8. I did some research on the standards behind them, and ...

Karl Williamson
Jun 22, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Jan 28, 2014 at 6:16 am

23	[perl #93640] Allow comments in qw()

# New Ticket Created by "Eric Brine" # Please include the string: [perl #93640] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Eric Brine
Jun 27, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Sep 19, 2011 at 9:37 am

22	RE: Any objections to warning on chr(-1)

Quite. So if "Perl Characters" (components of "Perl Strings") are to be indistinguishable from unsigned "Perl Integers", then this is a trap left for the future :-( IMO it is 100% correct for the ...

Chris Hall
Jun 10, 2011 at 11:18 am
Jul 28, 2011 at 2:48 pm

22	Support for octal literals using 0odd and 0Odd

Hi, perltodo lists that we should support octal literals using 0odddddddd as we support 0xdddddddd for hex. Is there any place besides Perl_scan_num in toke.c, a doc change in pod/perldata.pod and a ...

Claes Jakobsson
Jun 30, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Jul 7, 2011 at 5:43 pm

17	[perl #93324] [PATCH] Remove B from Carp

# New Ticket Created by Reini Urban # Please include the string: [perl #93324] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Reini Urban
Jun 22, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Aug 8, 2011 at 12:35 pm

16

perlcheat

pod/perlcheat.pod needs an update for 5.14. I've done some work in a local .odt, that I use to create a .png from, but that could be reworked back into the .pod. This is what I got so far, but I'm ...

H.Merijn Brand
Jun 10, 2011 at 7:52 am
Jun 11, 2012 at 11:09 am

16	current "production quality" GIT tag ? not 5.14.0 : Fwd: 5.14.0 make test failures on Linux x86_64 glibc-2.13 gcc-4.6.0 binutils-2.21.51.20110407

Good day Nick, perl-porters - Sorry for spamming the whole list about this, but perlbug seems to be down - it thinks all my messages to it are not "plain/text" even though they are and does not ...

Jason Vas Dias
Jun 2, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Jun 3, 2011 at 12:42 pm

15	Proposed new module IO::Socket::IP for 5.15

Core has included IO::Socket and IO::Socket::INET since time immemorial. Now that 5.14 ships with Socket::getaddrinfo() and ::getnameinfo(), we have all the in-core functionallity required to support ...

Paul LeoNerd Evans
Jun 17, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Sep 23, 2011 at 10:11 pm

12	Broken API for is_utf8_char()

I was looking at Bug #32080 (Perl_is_utf8_string reads out of bounds), and have come to the conclusion that is_utf8_char() can't be fixed without changing the API. The problem is that it takes a ...

Karl Williamson
Jun 29, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 am

12	[perl #93638] Incorrect entry in $LS_COLORS causes glob() failures

# New Ticket Created by brian greenfield # Please include the string: [perl #93638] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Brian greenfield
Jun 27, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Oct 26, 2011 at 4:32 pm

12	Changing lvalueness of existing subs; refactoring pp_leavesub

I’m trying to unify the lvalue-returning code, but here’s something I’ve come across: As of Perl 5.12, ‘sub foo :lvalue’ does nothing except warn if the subroutine is already defined and is not an ...

Father Chrysostomos
Jun 19, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Aug 6, 2011 at 5:26 pm

12	UNIVERSAL::VERSION and base.pm

I’ve come up with a simple way to fix the incompatibility between UNIVERSAL::VERSION and base.pm: stop UNIVERSAL::VERSION from parsing the version if called with no arguments. When called simply as ...

Father Chrysostomos
Jun 20, 2011 at 3:41 am
Jul 20, 2011 at 5:46 am

12	For else blocks?

Hello First sorry if this was already discussed. Tried to search on the archives but didn't find any relevant result. If this was already discussed, just say so and forget my email :) Was reading ...

Alberto Simões
Jun 25, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Jun 29, 2011 at 2:02 pm

12	RFC: utf8::valid_unicode()

To close ticket #43294 "utf8::valid considers illegal characters to be valid", I'm proposing adding a new function that contains the functionality the requester wanted: =item * $flag = ...

Karl Williamson
Jun 7, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Jun 8, 2011 at 1:20 am

11	[perl #93358] perlop's description of => is missing an acceptable first character

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Dmcbride @ cpan . org
Jun 22, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Aug 26, 2011 at 3:34 pm

10	Shouldn't \N{unknown name} be a syntax error?

The current behavior of \N{} when it can't find the name is to raise a warning and return the REPLACEMENT character. This seems wrong to me, as it is a compilation-time construct, and every other ...

Karl Williamson
Jun 15, 2011 at 1:44 am
Oct 24, 2012 at 5:06 pm

9	Perl with batteries included?

(This email is inspired by the debate on __SUB__, but I want to open a more general discussion.) I'm periodically taken aback by the intense reluctance I sense from some about innovating within Perl ...

David Golden
Jun 13, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Jul 20, 2011 at 10:03 am

9	FYI: smoke-me's which do/do-not merge

FWIW, heres a simple shell script which merges each of origin/smoke-me* to blead, and reports status. git branch -D `git branch | grep merge-` for br in `git branch -r | grep origin/smoke-me`; do ...

Jim Cromie
Jun 13, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Jun 21, 2011 at 2:02 pm

9	Thoughts on patch squashing, commit messages and keeping perldelta up to date

Hello Porters. I've been talked into being Jesse's peon again for the release of Perl 5.15.0 later in June. I've started working my way through the nearly 400 commits since the release of Perl 5.14.0 ...

David Golden
Jun 6, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Jun 13, 2011 at 7:01 pm

9	Re: FAIL DBIx-Connector-0.45 v5.15.0 GNU/Linux

I've bisected it: v5.14.0-251-g0e21945 commit 0e21945565eb4664d843bb819fb032cedee4d5a6 Author: Max Maischein <[email protected] Date: Sun May 22 21:36:57 2011 -0700 Turn $$ into a magical readonly ...

Andreas J. Koenig
Jun 1, 2011 at 5:14 am
Jun 9, 2011 at 2:52 pm

8	Can we do global bug fixes that change behavior?

xdg suggested on IRC that i ask this as a separate question, so: obra: Assuming p5p reaches an agreement that magical newline-changing on Windows is a bug, would you agree to changing the behavior ...

Christian Walde
Jun 28, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Jul 5, 2011 at 5:48 am

8	Perl 5 Commit Summary

Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Saturday Current branch blead 46 commits. 7 unique authors. 5 unique committers. 25 files changed, 558 insertions(+), 328 deletions(-) Net code removal: Leon ...

Perl 5 commit summary
Jun 1, 2011 at 1:14 am
Jun 29, 2011 at 1:14 am

7	RFC: Allow bare ‘continue;’ without feature.pm

$ perl5.14.0 -e 'continue;' syntax error at -e line 1, near "continue" Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. I thought the whole purpose of feature.pm was to avoid conflicts with ...

Father Chrysostomos
Jun 12, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Feb 26, 2012 at 8:36 pm

7	[perl #93496] CPAN.pm/META.json/dynamic_config/configure_requires module installation issue.

# New Ticket Created by Elliot Shank # Please include the string: [perl #93496] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Elliot Shank
Jun 24, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Sep 11, 2011 at 11:44 pm

7	Change of UTF-8 bad byte handling between 5.13.1 and 5.13.8

I've been looking into the 100% FAIL rate of IO::Async on perl 5.13.8 and above: http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=IO-Async+0.41 What I've discovered is a change in behaviour of handling bad UTF-8 ...

Paul LeoNerd Evans
Jun 25, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Jul 22, 2011 at 10:09 pm

7	Proposal for 5.16: Kill the Changes file

These days, the Changes file is a set of pointers into git and historical tarballs rather than a literal record of all Changes in the distribution. It needs updating for each and every release. Given ...

Jesse Vincent
Jun 8, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Jul 2, 2011 at 12:19 pm

7	unify pp_eq, pp_ne, pp_cmp etc?

There are a whole bunch of numeric comparison ops, that have very similar, but quite complex bodies, to cope with IV verses UV verses NV etc. I was wondering whether it would be beneficial to just ...

Dave Mitchell
Jun 14, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Jun 28, 2011 at 12:18 pm

7	This is your absolute last chance to get changes into 5.14.1

The following are the only items I know to be un-cherry-picked but still up for consideration for 5.14.1. Karl proposes 3 fixes to our unicode multi-char case-insensitive matching. I'm told that at ...

Jesse Vincent
Jun 8, 2011 at 3:42 am
Jun 8, 2011 at 6:56 pm

7	[perl #92164] $& magic can get fetched too late

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Niko Tyni
Jun 3, 2011 at 6:14 am
Jun 4, 2011 at 10:39 am

6	[perl #93134] Relocatable-perl on AIX does not run if added to PATH

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Dmcbride @ cpan . org
Jun 20, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Sep 28, 2011 at 7:43 pm

6	[perl #92376] man perlport quotes YYYY-MM-DDTHH-MM-SS with '-' instead of ':'

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Mw-u2 @ gmx . de
Jun 7, 2011 at 11:57 am
Aug 26, 2011 at 8:54 pm

6	bless document unclear

Hi, http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/bless.html I notice the document for bless is extremely unclear compared with the following discussion. The discussion of 'bless' in Programming Perl 3/e is also ...

Peng Yu
Jun 30, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Jul 1, 2011 at 6:58 pm

6	bfa148846 Reorder ops so that trans{,r} and aelemfast{,_lex} are adjacent

Sigh, bfa148846 Reorder ops so that trans{,r} and aelemfast{,_lex} are adjacent This reshuffles for no apparent win all op numbers 35, and thus makes it very hard to maintain .pmc bytecode ...

Reini Urban
Jun 13, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Jun 28, 2011 at 12:08 pm

6	Why doesn't do-given pass back values in lexical variables declared in given?

Perl 5.14 added a return value to `given` if you put it inside a do. However, it looks like that return value can't be a value in a lexical variable the you define inside the `given`: ...

Brian d foy
Jun 24, 2011 at 12:04 am
Jun 27, 2011 at 7:37 pm

6	Backslash to Slash

Fellow Perlers, Anyone know when \ was changed to / in the file name in error messages on Win32? Example: http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/bcb869fe-7306-1014-b29a-c198c477d273 The test expects ...

David E. Wheeler
Jun 21, 2011 at 3:32 am
Jun 21, 2011 at 7:53 pm

6	Any objection to allowing no-op underscores between regex modifiers?

I heard about this proposal too late to get it in 5.14. Allowing underscores as a way for the user to separate the regex modifiers into whatever groups they wish seems like a good idea to me. The ...

Karl Williamson
Jun 11, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Jun 17, 2011 at 10:05 am

6	[perl #92828] blead hangs on FreeBSD during testing

# New Ticket Created by brian greenfield # Please include the string: [perl #92828] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Brian greenfield
Jun 14, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Jun 16, 2011 at 12:20 pm

6	[perl #92220] No die on open pipe to unknown program

# New Ticket Created by "Rolf Rost" # Please include the string: [perl #92220] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Rolf Rost
Jun 4, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Jun 6, 2011 at 6:57 pm

6	Nominations for 5.14.1

Here are my nominations for things to go into 5.14.1. I have used cherrymaint to request these; three of the memory leak patches have been nominated in p5p before, but cherrymaint hasn't been used on ...

Karl Williamson
Jun 2, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Jun 3, 2011 at 4:27 am

5	[perl #78194] Referencing a PADTMP twice produces two copies

It might be cleaner for not only S_refto, but also any op that aliases a PADTMP to copy it. That would include for, map, grep, arguments to subroutines, and the lhs of (...)x...

Father Chrysostomos via RT
Jun 5, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Jul 27, 2013 at 6:28 pm

5	[perl #93102] keys is not always an lvalue

# New Ticket Created by Father Chrysostomos # Please include the string: [perl #93102] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Father Chrysostomos
Jun 20, 2011 at 2:24 am
Aug 28, 2011 at 6:12 am

5	qw-as-parens deprecation

I propose to consummate the qw-as-parens deprecation by replacing each usage of lpar_or_qw in perly.y with plain '(' and making consequential deletions. Any objections? This runs directly into the ...

Zefram
Jun 14, 2011 at 10:29 am
Jun 21, 2011 at 8:03 am

5	[perl #92992] "who be" should be "who are" in perl*delta.pod

# New Ticket Created by "Pau Amma" # Please include the string: [perl #92992] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Pau Amma
Jun 16, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Jun 19, 2011 at 9:09 pm

5	[perl #92246] Perl 5.14 does not allow "internal" setting of $ENV{'PERL_SIGNALS'}

# New Ticket Created by Cameron Kaiser # Please include the string: [perl #92246] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Cameron Kaiser
Jun 5, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Jun 17, 2011 at 7:16 pm

5	Perl 5.12.4-RC2 is now available

Now for sugar, -- nay, our plan Tolerates no work of man. Hurry, then, ye golden bees; Fetch your clearest honey, please, Garnered on a Yorkshire moor, While the last larks sing and soar, From the ...

Léon Brocard
Jun 15, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Jun 17, 2011 at 5:55 am

5	Plan for 5.14.1 RC1 - Tuesday

Hey folks, I'd like to start buttoning things up for RC1. I know that a number of the actual bugfix patches have been backported to maint already. Other items on my personal hitlist include: commit ...

Jesse Vincent
Jun 4, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Jun 7, 2011 at 3:26 am

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