perl5-porters@perl.org discussions for December 2010

78	Current Issues with perlipc.pod - should they be fixed?

Hi all, after I posted my series of patches to perlipc.pod , I saw that tchrist posted his version, which got accepted immediately. As a downside to that, I'll have to restart my work. However, I ...

Shlomi Fish
Dec 3, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Dec 7, 2010 at 2:21 pm

69	[perl #80628] [PATCH] __SUB__

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Father Chrysostomos
Dec 12, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Jun 19, 2011 at 7:27 pm

33	[perl #80626] More problems with push/keys $scalar

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Father Chrysostomos
Dec 12, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Apr 19, 2011 at 5:56 am

25	Perl 5.12.3

Hey folks, We're fast approaching time to get an RC of 5.12.3 out. So far, there are relatively few patches that have been backported or proposed+confirmed for backport by committers. So, wider world ...

Jesse Vincent
Dec 1, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Dec 7, 2010 at 8:03 am

22	It may be time to really start thinking of the syntax for regex intersection, difference, and union

I'm willing to add this for 5.16 if we can come to agreement on the syntax. One possible scenario is that we use legal, but essentially nonsensical syntax to specify these operations. One example is ...

Karl williamson
Dec 23, 2010 at 5:03 am
Jan 3, 2011 at 7:34 pm

20	Adding codegeneration step

I will send the patches afterthis, but the changes are in the codegen branch at git://github.com/ggoossen/perl.git or to view the commits https://github.com/ggoossen/perl/commits/codegen * Small ...

Gerard Goossen
Dec 30, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Feb 13, 2011 at 4:31 pm

19	perldelta naming

When 5.13.9 is released next month, a new perldelta will be created referring to 5.13.10. This version number is a novelty for us, in that it is the first time the subversion component has exceeded ...

Zefram
Dec 20, 2010 at 11:08 am
Jan 4, 2011 at 10:33 pm

18	move dump.c to a module?

I would like to move most of the dump.c functions to a core module, Devel::Dump would be a nice name. shared - loaded on demand for normal perls or MAD, static_ext for a DEBUGGING libperl. I would ...

Reini Urban
Dec 27, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Jan 2, 2011 at 7:18 pm

16	RFC: Because of security, deprecate :utf8 layer in favor of :utf8_no_check

Many people use :utf8 without realizing the security implications. I claim that they need to be warned about that. Deprecating the name, and changing it to one like :utf8_no_check (better name ...

Karl williamson
Dec 15, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Jan 5, 2011 at 7:54 am

16	[perl #80306] Quoting behaviour of => is too generous

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Ed Avis
Dec 6, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Dec 12, 2010 at 12:11 pm

15	RFC: Summary of proposed handling of surrogates, non-characters, etc for 5.14. Note some backward incompatibility

This summarizes my understanding of what's come out of the latest rounds of discussions on this; which is the latest set on this topic of many over the years. Hopefully, now that there is someone ...

Karl williamson
Dec 19, 2010 at 5:56 am
Dec 27, 2010 at 10:25 am

15	Should we add casts to silence bogus warnings from VC6

I was looking at the remaining warnings generated by VC6 when compiling core Perl and found that most come from the fact that the ternary operator always seems to return a value that is the same size ...

Jan Dubois
Dec 15, 2010 at 7:33 am
Dec 20, 2010 at 9:36 am

14	[perl #81016] Document ord("")

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Zsban Ambrus
Dec 20, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Dec 27, 2010 at 2:12 am

13	Turn $$ into a magical readonly variable that always fetches getpid()

Hello, I've already asked on #p5p and nobody (present) came up with a reason why this should be done, so attached is a patch. Perl fetches at program startup the value of getpid() and stores it in ...

Max Maischein
Dec 29, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Jan 8, 2011 at 8:30 pm

11	Perl 5 Commit Summary

Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Saturday Current branch blead 91 commits. 19 unique authors. 11 unique committers. 85 files changed, 1121 insertions(+), 855 deletions(-) Net code removal: ...

Perl 5 commit summary
Dec 1, 2010 at 2:15 am
Dec 29, 2010 at 2:14 am

11	need help with bizarre build failures on Solaris

We've filed this RT ticket: http://rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Display.html?id=80782 When we build (a) with Sun Studio, (b) 64-bit, and (c) supply a vendorprefix (or multiple paths in APPLLIB), we ...

Ricardo Signes
Dec 21, 2010 at 3:42 am
Dec 26, 2010 at 11:55 am

10	namespace blessing on module "rig"

Hi, I'm writing to you regarding a new module I've uploaded last night to the CPAN, called "rig". So far, it's only a developer's release. Here's the link to the pod: ...

Rodrigo de Oliveira
Dec 20, 2010 at 10:04 am
Dec 22, 2010 at 1:24 am

10	[perl #81026] Perl binary no longer relocatable

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Doug Hunt
Dec 20, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Dec 21, 2010 at 8:44 pm

9	refined :utf8 I/O layers proposal

Based on feedback, here's a revised proposal: No layer allows in syntactically malformed utf8 :strict_utf8 allows in only what Unicode says is interchangeable :safe_utf8 (or maybe :portable_utf8) ...

Karl williamson
Dec 24, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Jan 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm

9	the upcoming release of 5.12.3

My hope is to release 5.12.3 no later than January 14. The recent weather in the northeastern states scrambled a lot of my plans, but I'm recovering and hope to be back to normal very soon. I expect ...

Ricardo Signes
Dec 31, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Jan 3, 2011 at 5:27 pm

9	Make $obj->$method honours "&{}" overloading on $method

The attached patch makes "Package- $method" and "$obj- $method" call "&{}" overloading on $method whenever present. In that case, it is equivalent to "Package- $ret" and "$obj- $ret", where $ret is ...

Vincent Pit
Dec 5, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Dec 11, 2010 at 4:13 pm

8	[perl #80190] Length-caching bug in utf8::decode

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Eric Brine
Dec 3, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Oct 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm

7	RFC: Fixing locale and utf8; some backward incompatibility issues

It turns out that Perl has two disparate methods for dealing with locale and utf8. One way is to lose localeness when a scalar is changed to utf8, so that whatever character is at ordinal X suddenly ...

Karl williamson
Dec 31, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Jan 5, 2011 at 6:13 pm

7	[PATCH] Implement Socket::getaddrinfo and ::getnameinfo, and other IPv6 work

Attached is a series of patches from my ipv6 branch. They implement Socket::getaddrinfo() and Socket::getnameinfo() Also included are a few bugfix patches for the earlier sockaddr_in6() changes. -- ...

Paul LeoNerd Evans
Dec 30, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Jan 4, 2011 at 10:26 am

7	[QUESTION] cannot open "tail -f"

Hi, I use a very simple perl script like below, I don't know why this happen, so anybody can give me some clue on this? ############################################################################## ...

Jovi Zhang
Dec 22, 2010 at 8:41 am
Dec 23, 2010 at 10:42 am

7	[perl #80740] [PATCH] Add tests for new regex flags

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Renee . baecker @ smart-websolutions . de
Dec 14, 2010 at 11:21 am
Dec 17, 2010 at 11:46 pm

7	For 5.12.3

It would be nice if we could get the cpan/CGI/t/http.t fixes into 5.12.3. They consist of two commits which just need one more vote each: 5b898c5 582bd87 If we could backport the fix for ‘print ...

Father Chrysostomos
Dec 6, 2010 at 1:25 am
Dec 16, 2010 at 4:44 pm

7	[PATCH] stacked labels

Attached patch liberalises label syntax a little further, by allowing labels to be stacked. I'm posting it for comment. Don't really expect it to be contentious, since the earlier, more radical, ...

Zefram
Dec 12, 2010 at 11:47 am
Dec 13, 2010 at 9:12 pm

7	RFC: Restatement of /a regex proposal

I realized as I got further into the design that there were some unstated things about what I'm proposing. So here is a complete statement, AFAIK: Using /a will have the following effects: 1) \s, \d, ...

Karl williamson
Dec 4, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Dec 9, 2010 at 4:24 am

6	[PATCH] Re: [perl #36347] Object destruction incomplete

Doing so would allow destructors to see freed SVs. Instead, how’s this patch? It still needs tests and a commit message. Watch: $ perl -le' sub DESTROY{warn aaa}bless\$a[0]' $ ./perl -le' sub ...

Father Chrysostomos via RT
Dec 12, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Jan 3, 2011 at 2:35 am

6	[PATCH] Prevent warning about possible precedence problem in IO-Compress

Attached patch prevents a warning about a possible precende problem in IO-Compress. Current perl won't warn about this because the precende problem is with a constant folded expressions, but the ...

Gerard Goossen
Dec 30, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Dec 31, 2010 at 3:48 pm

6	Smoke [5.12.2] v5.12.2-4-g6b6803c FAIL(F) MSWin32 WinXP/.Net SP3 (x86/2 cpu)

Automated smoke report for 5.12.2 patch 6b6803ca5cc042a20bd63333defdcf9b4b5a045c v5.12.2-4-g6b6803c maldoror.bath.planit.group: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz(~2660 MHz) (x86/2 cpu) on MSWin32 ...

Steve Hay
Dec 3, 2010 at 1:54 am
Dec 26, 2010 at 1:53 am

6	Radical proposal based on proof that current implementation of Unicode under /i is hopelessly broken

Multi-character folding is the issue I'll address here, pointing out a huge design flaw. Consider 'f', LATIN SMALL LIGATURE FF, and LATIN SMALL LIGATURE FFI. All these are matched by \p{Alpha}. Now ...

Karl williamson
Dec 11, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Dec 16, 2010 at 6:05 pm

6	[perl #80212] Bleadperl v5.13.7-234-g7b98bc4 breaks YAML::XS and JE

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Andreas J. Koenig) (via RT
Dec 4, 2010 at 8:11 am
Dec 5, 2010 at 8:13 am

5	LLVM and Emscripten

Anyone up for playing with perl, llvm and http://code.google.com/p/emscripten/? -j

Jesse Vincent
Dec 27, 2010 at 4:55 am
Apr 10, 2011 at 5:03 pm

5	[PATCH] Suppress "Name used only once" warnings.

From Locale::Maketext and I18N::LangTags::Detect. To replicate, run perl -Idist/Locale-Maketext/lib -Icpan/IPC-Cmd/lib -Idist/I18N-LangTags/lib -we "use IPC::Cmd" --- ...

David E. Wheeler
Dec 28, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Jan 28, 2011 at 5:49 am

5	[perl #81426] Can't parse array indexing in regexes for certain indexes

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Moritz Lenz
Dec 29, 2010 at 6:27 am
Jan 2, 2011 at 9:57 pm

5	RFC: regex modifier to restrict ascii character /i matching to ascii

No one objected when I said I would implement the /a regex modifier without it affecting caseless matching, so that's what I'm doing. I also said that I would implement an extension which is to ...

Karl williamson
Dec 22, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Dec 31, 2010 at 5:22 am

5

5.10.2

Following my relatively painless experience with 5.13.8, I'm willing to do the release engineering work for a 5.10.2. I invite Jesse to specify terms of reference for commits to maint-5.10, and ...

Zefram
Dec 20, 2010 at 11:02 am
Dec 20, 2010 at 3:59 pm

5	? should interpolating a utf8-encoded string preserve utf8ness?

Consider my $s = 's'; utf8::upgrade($s); my $b = ":$s:"; $b isn't in utf8. Should it? I suppose one can argue that it shouldn't matter externally.

Karl williamson
Dec 13, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Dec 14, 2010 at 12:15 am

5	Re: perl5-porters Digest 6 Dec 2010 14:15:25 -0000 Issue 6678

Oh, please don't. That won't even work with most versions of unix. #! doesn't do a path search, so unless you have a perl command in the local directory, you'll get an (obscure) "not found" warning ...

John P. Linderman
Dec 6, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Dec 9, 2010 at 2:45 pm

4	[perl #72724] lvalue subs

I would like to propose some changes to the way lvalue subs work. Right now the docs say that you can’t use return. This just makes them so much less useful than they could be. Currently, ...

Father Chrysostomos
Dec 12, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Jun 1, 2011 at 1:17 am

4	[PATCH] test for clearing of lexical variables in for loops with redo and next

Test for clearing of lexical variables in for loops with redo and next Gerard Goossen

Gerard Goossen
Dec 30, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Jan 16, 2011 at 9:04 pm

4	ExtUtils::CBuilder's t/04-base.t creates temporary directories, but never cleans them up]

ExtUtils::CBuilder's t/04-base.t creates temporary directories, but never cleans them up. This means that anyone running blead's tests gets 2 directories in /tmp per run. Lucky smokers :-) I've ...

Nicholas Clark
Dec 14, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Jan 1, 2011 at 4:20 pm

4	Re: [perl.git] branch blead, updated. v5.13.7-501-gb7f0477

The current version of threads::shared on CPAN is 1.34. So why was thread::shared bumped to 1.35 instead of 1.34_01 for the v5.13.8 release? This concerns me because that means the next version I ...

Jerry D. Hedden
Dec 20, 2010 at 12:12 am
Dec 20, 2010 at 12:35 am

4	[perl #80548] [PATCH] Add the stash name to DTrace probes

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David Leadbeater
Dec 10, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Dec 17, 2010 at 5:21 am

4	Smoke [5.13.7] v5.13.7-421-g8e72030 FAIL(m) MSWin32 WinXP/.Net SP3 (x86/2 cpu)

Automated smoke report for 5.13.7 patch 8e720305f65b4f201f4aef0d72433f29360b876f v5.13.7-421-g8e72030 maldoror.bath.planit.group: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz(~2660 MHz) (x86/2 cpu) on ...

Steve Hay
Dec 14, 2010 at 2:09 am
Dec 15, 2010 at 1:10 am

4	$@ abuse in 5.14

ribasushi, mst, and I have discussed the issue of modules wanting to know about unwinding in progress, and reached some interim conclusions. Regarding those modules that have so far used $@ to ...

Zefram
Dec 6, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Dec 7, 2010 at 12:20 am

3	[perl #81408] Perl infinite loop: Perl_magic_get / Perl_csighandler

# New Ticket Created by Russ Weight # Please include the string: [perl #81408] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Russ Weight
Dec 28, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Jan 12, 2011 at 10:53 pm

3	[PATCH] Make goto into a construct an error

The patch makes goto into a construct into an error, as this is not supported by the codegeneation step. Gerard Goossen.

Gerard Goossen
Dec 30, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Jan 9, 2011 at 9:20 pm

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