perl5-porters@perl.org discussions for July 2010

52	[perl #76438] peephole optimiser could prune more dead code

# New Ticket Created by Nicholas Clark # Please include the string: [perl #76438] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Nicholas Clark
Jul 9, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Aug 6, 2010 at 6:33 pm

47	Patch to make string-append on win32 100 times faster

My first post to p5p -- let me know if I should have gone about this differently. This discussion started on c.l.p.m., subject "Speed of reading some MB of data using qx(...)", see ...

Wolfram Humann
Jul 30, 2010 at 10:00 am
Aug 24, 2010 at 5:39 pm

47	PATCH [perl #58182] partial: user-defined casing

Since my recent posts have been quickly answered, I thought that now would be a good time best to push this warnocked item through as a real patch that I want to be considered, and picked apart. As ...

Karl williamson
Jul 10, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Aug 15, 2010 at 7:35 pm

44	Announcing the Perl 5 Documentation Team

I am excited to announce the formation of the Perl 5 Documentation Team. Our goal is to have the best, most current, and easiest to use and understand documentation of any programming language. Why ...

Chas. Owens
Jul 1, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Jul 8, 2010 at 8:26 am

39	[perl #76756] PATCH: srand returns the seed

# New Ticket Created by karl williamson # Please include the string: [perl #76756] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Karl williamson
Jul 27, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Aug 3, 2010 at 1:26 pm

35	[PATCH] Configure probe for static inline

Andy Dougherty
Jul 6, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Aug 25, 2010 at 12:18 pm

32	Order of evaluation of terms (was peephole optimiser could prune more dead code)

I thought this was actually specified in terms of precedence and associativity, but if I read it narrowly as written, it's not. At best it's implied. But maybe we can get there by analogy with some ...

David Golden
Jul 15, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Aug 20, 2010 at 2:33 pm

30	The whimsical nature of the backwards-compatibility police...

I have on many occasions had encounters with the backward-compatibility police on this list. They find me hacking, pull me over, and harass me about the color of my bike shed. Yet others, painting ...

Demerphq
Jul 8, 2010 at 8:40 am
Jul 9, 2010 at 10:06 pm

25

ordinal

Karl: I noticed that several of your documentation mods involved replacing "numerical" (or something similar) with "ordinal". I think there's a potential for confusion. According to google's "define: ...

John P. Linderman
Jul 16, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Sep 1, 2010 at 7:04 am

24	Barriers to contribution (was Re: kill $1 broken in 5.12.1)

I suspect that one barrier to entry is that people interested in Perl's evolution tend to be mostly Perl developers, not C developers. Focusing on contributing to the actual C source, I can speak to ...

David Golden
Jul 2, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Jul 7, 2010 at 5:17 pm

23	Re: [perl #76546] regex engine slowdown bug

The original of this bug report didn't make it to the p5p mailing list; presumably because the original test script included 0.5Mb of sample HTML. The following demonstrates the same slowdown while ...

Dave Mitchell
Jul 24, 2010 at 3:46 pm
May 21, 2012 at 9:41 pm

22	Re: [perl #75176] Symbol::delete_package does not free certain memory associated with package::ISA

This was caused by change 31239/70cd14 which fixes *ISA=[] to call mro_isa_changed_in. The actual underlying cause is explained in mro’s manpage, under mro::get_isarev: Currently, this list only ...

Webmasters
Jul 25, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Oct 10, 2010 at 11:20 pm

19	missing Makefile.PL build error

a recent patch, probably commit c5bf89912ac990e9912d66fd31c49acfcd31a5f9 Author: Jerry D. Hedden <jdhedden@cpan.org Date: Wed Jul 7 12:22:09 2010 -0400 Reorganize dist/threads-shared Move ...

Jim Cromie
Jul 10, 2010 at 3:17 am
Jan 30, 2011 at 11:30 pm

19	How experimental should blead be?

My question is sparked by Karl's recent work on unicode, but it's not specific to him. Now that blead is getting released on a monthly cycle, I'm not clear on whether there is consensus that sweeping ...

David Golden
Jul 12, 2010 at 2:06 am
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:43 am

15	What are the issues of splitting a warnings category?

Does backward compatibility doom any splitting? I've been thinking of what to do about the Unicode non-characters. They, and characters outside of Unicode (anything above U+10FFFF) are currently ...

Karl williamson
Jul 8, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Jul 9, 2010 at 8:34 pm

14	[perl #3330] Magic increment avoids warning unexpectedly

The most likely place to put this warning has a comment nearby that reads: /* Got to punt this as an integer if needs be, but we don't issue warnings. Probably ought to make the sv_iv_please() that ...

George Greer via RT
Jul 18, 2010 at 3:02 am
May 7, 2014 at 12:52 am

14	? Support for extending recognizing numbers composed of non-ASCII digits

I'm considering the possibility of extending the recognition of numbers to beyond the ASCII digits to other scripts, such as arabic, devanagari, etc. I found a way to do this reasonably efficiently, ...

Karl williamson
Jul 25, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Jul 30, 2010 at 2:21 pm

14	[PATCH] Make the peep recurse via PL_peepp

Also allows extensions, when delegating to Perl_peep, to specify what function it should use when recursing into a part of the op tree. The usecase for this are extensions like namespace::alias, ...

Florian Ragwitz
Jul 23, 2010 at 8:08 am
Jul 27, 2010 at 12:37 pm

14	bleadperl v5.13.2-282-g57b20d1 spits zillions of warnings

"Attempt to free unreferenced scalar: SV 0x2d00338, < line 12 during global destruction." "Attempt to free unreferenced scalar: SV 0x2518080 at ...

Andreas J. Koenig
Jul 16, 2010 at 6:29 am
Jul 18, 2010 at 6:20 pm

14	Training class: how to get started patching perl?

It is not my idea. Someone, I think during the QA Hackathon in Vienna talked about it but it fits the problem that was described of lack of people who know how to hack on perl. The idea is that ...

Gabor Szabo
Jul 7, 2010 at 7:30 am
Jul 7, 2010 at 5:37 pm

12	Smoke [5.13.2] v5.13.2-245-g9df83ff FAIL(Xm) linux 2.6.32-22-generic [debian] (x86_64/8 cpu)

Automated smoke report for 5.13.2 patch 9df83ffded21f5c1d01d1ef847c3447b6553810f v5.13.2-245-g9df83ff zwei: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (GenuineIntel 1600MHz) (x86_64/8 cpu) on linux - ...

George Greer
Jul 13, 2010 at 7:13 am
Apr 24, 2012 at 12:19 am

12	Continuation::Delimited

Hi, I was wondering if there's any interest in adding Continuation::Delimited or at least the requisite C apis to core? Basically as a proof of concept it works great, but as a useful module it's ...

Yuval Kogman
Jul 6, 2010 at 9:37 am
Jul 13, 2010 at 11:34 pm

11	[perl #76558] Using space as a separator in $Config{libpth} makes troubles

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Kmx
Jul 18, 2010 at 11:47 am
May 11, 2011 at 3:32 pm

11	5.12.2 - we're 2-3 weeks out and I need your help.

I know that some cherrypicking for 5.12.2 has already happened, but it would be incredibly useful to me if you (anyone reading this mail) would spend a couple minutes looking at bugs and commits ...

Jesse Vincent
Jul 29, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Aug 22, 2010 at 1:23 am

11	How do i compile blead without DEBUGGING?

There doesn't seem to be a way to use -Dusedevel and not have DEBUGGING enabled. I tried: ./Configure -Doptimize=-g -d -Dusedevel -Dcc=ccache\ gcc -Dld=gcc -Duseithreads ./Configure -d -Dusedevel ...

Demerphq
Jul 12, 2010 at 11:59 am
Aug 3, 2010 at 12:45 pm

10	TPF bug-grant report #18

Continued to work on the CvSTASH/GvSTASH/CvGV/EGP weak backrefs and general dangling pointers mess. Should hopefully start seeing some pushed commits in the coming week. Report for period 2010/07/05 ...

Dave Mitchell
Jul 12, 2010 at 9:17 am
Aug 1, 2010 at 9:04 pm

10	RFC: space vs. time vs. functionality in \N{name} loose matching

With the latest changes to charnames, the last major bit of Unicode \N{name} functionality that is still missing is loose matching of names. I've brought up the issue before, but no conclusions were ...

Karl williamson
Jul 29, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Aug 1, 2010 at 4:04 pm

10	PATCH [perl #59342] \400, \o{}

make regen is needed This series of commits adds the syntax \o{} and changes the handling of \400 and above in the place where it previously gave a deprecation message. It now generates the correct ...

Karl williamson
Jul 16, 2010 at 12:30 am
Jul 18, 2010 at 3:02 pm

9	[perl #3112] Bizarre copy of ARRAY in last

I've attached a stab at it. I added a new test and it passes the current ones also, however I'm not 100% versed in the perl stack enough to know if using SvTYPE is the most accurate criteria here. ...

George Greer via RT
Jul 17, 2010 at 2:32 am
Sep 20, 2013 at 8:09 am

9	[perl #76424] PATCH: document existing \x \000 behavior

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Karl williamson
Jul 8, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Jul 10, 2010 at 2:57 pm

8	[perl #76402] [PATCH] Locale::Maketext One Sided Lexicons

# New Ticket Created by Todd Rinaldo # Please include the string: [perl #76402] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Todd Rinaldo
Jul 6, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Aug 6, 2010 at 4:49 pm

8	Smoke [5.10.1] perl-5.10.1-1-gca8de22 FAIL(F) MSWin32 WinXP/.Net SP3 (x86/2 cpu)

Automated smoke report for 5.10.1 patch ca8de220718ba91d5a5fdd9779497cd5b0250258 perl-5.10.1-1-gca8de22 maldoror.bath.planit.group: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz(~2660 MHz) (x86/2 cpu) on ...

Steve Hay
Jul 3, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54 pm

8	Perl 5 Commit Summary

Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Wednesday Current branch blead 40 commits. 9 unique authors. 6 unique committers. 124 files changed, 2893 insertions(+), 1799 deletions(-) Net code removal: ...

Perl 5 commit summary
Jul 3, 2010 at 1:08 am
Jul 31, 2010 at 1:08 am

8	Fwd: [PATCH-ish] perldoc to use system("$pager ...") instead of system($pager, ...) because $pager may require shell interpretation for `less'.

Oops, forward to p5p too. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joshua ben Jore <twists@gmail.com Date: Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM Subject: [PATCH-ish] perldoc to use system("$pager ...") ...

Joshua ben Jore
Jul 16, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Jul 19, 2010 at 4:33 am

8	[perl #2815] Localization of $@ excessive

This was fixed(?) in v5.12.0-108-g96d9b9c (actually v5.13.0), so this ticket can be closed. -- George Greer

George Greer via RT
Jul 11, 2010 at 4:58 am
Jul 13, 2010 at 1:50 pm

8	[PATCH] New Internals::sv_dump debug utility function

Attached patch add Internals::sv_dump a simple function to print the internal state of the sv. Usefull for debugging without a debugger or loading Devel::Peek. Gerard Goossen

Gerard Goossen
Jul 7, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Jul 9, 2010 at 2:44 pm

8	[perl #76374] BEGIN { require VERSION } loads feature.pm

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Brian d foy
Jul 3, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Jul 8, 2010 at 10:45 am

8	What about \p{Script=XXX} boundaries?

Is there a built-in mechanism for asking for a chunk of one or more characters all of the same "script" type? By script type, I mean \p{Script=XXX} for arbitrary but unchanging values of XXX. ...

Tom Christiansen
Jul 6, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Jul 7, 2010 at 11:08 pm

8	Smoke [5.13.2] v5.13.2-131-gf507d6f FAIL(F) MSWin32 Win2000 SP4 (x86/1 cpu)

Automated smoke report for 5.13.2 patch f507d6f025503d42282fe562873d505fd9969d0d v5.13.2-131-gf507d6f perl-win2k: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz(~2926 MHz) (x86/1 cpu) on MSWin32 - Win2000 ...

George Greer
Jul 1, 2010 at 4:46 am
Jul 4, 2010 at 5:53 pm

7	PERL_API_SUBVERSION for blead releases

Florian Ragwitz
Jul 20, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Jul 23, 2010 at 11:39 am

6	[perl #76630] [PATCH] Parallel build failures

# New Ticket Created by Tony Cook # Please include the string: [perl #76630] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Tony Cook
Jul 21, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Aug 17, 2010 at 8:49 pm

6	TPF Grant June 2010 report

As per my grant conditions, here is a report for the June period. This month was mainly spent on overload and symbol table bugs. Over the first 17 weeks I have now averaged about 17 hours per week, ...

Dave Mitchell
Jul 6, 2010 at 9:01 am
Aug 9, 2010 at 7:09 pm

6	PATCH: [perl #76424] revised: document existing \x \000 behavior

Here is a revised patch based on people's feedback. I think it is a waste of time to worry too much about the wording of the \000 part, as I'm close to submitting patches that clean up a number of ...

Karl williamson
Jul 10, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Aug 9, 2010 at 4:16 pm

6	Tie::ExtraHash tests

Can someone tell me where the Tie::ExtraHash tests are? I'm buggered if I can find them. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice In this episode, R2 and Luke weld the doors shut on their ...

David Cantrell
Jul 27, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Aug 2, 2010 at 7:57 am

5	given/when/default syntax design hides typos

$ perl -c -e 'use 5.10.0; given(1) { defalut { print "boo" } }' < no error Probably not much can be done about really fixing this, but a carefully crafted warning might be possible.

Chip Salzenberg
Jul 30, 2010 at 12:09 am
Jul 30, 2010 at 12:41 am

5	problems with version-0.82 on solaris on 5.8.[4..8]

I've noticed that the dual life version-0.82 has been troubled on Solaris. If anyone with Solaris could help diagnose, I'd greatly appreciate it. Here's the current platform matrix: ...

David Golden
Jul 29, 2010 at 2:24 am
Jul 29, 2010 at 4:34 pm

5	[Fwd: PATCH: [perl 71764]: charnames \N{} match all Unicode; fix scoping; performance]

I sent this patch some hours ago with the patches attached, but apparently it is too big. So, they are on github, as mentioned below: This series of commits principally fix the scoping bugs in ...

Karl williamson
Jul 14, 2010 at 3:44 am
Jul 27, 2010 at 8:44 am

5	[PATCH] Check API compatibility when loading xs modules

This adds PL_apiversion, allowing the API version of a running interpreter to be introspected. It is used in the new XS_APIVERSION_BOOTCHECK macro, which is added to the _boot function of every XS ...

Florian Ragwitz
Jul 22, 2010 at 10:06 am
Jul 26, 2010 at 1:52 pm

5	Smoke [5.13.2] v5.13.2-260-gfd2c61b FAIL(Fm) linux 2.6.32-22-generic [debian] (x86_64/8 cpu)

Automated smoke report for 5.13.2 patch fd2c61bcfdb4c097be4d3934b00729bb46787824 v5.13.2-260-gfd2c61b zwei: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (GenuineIntel 1600MHz) (x86_64/8 cpu) on linux - ...

George Greer
Jul 14, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Jul 18, 2010 at 9:24 pm

5	DOC PATCH RFC more clarifications on \x

The attached patch shows some more details that are usually glossed over about how things work. It has long been my contention that developers should write documentation on how their code works (with ...

Karl williamson
Jul 15, 2010 at 2:31 am
Jul 16, 2010 at 4:17 am

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