perl5-porters@perl.org discussions for December 2009

47	My policy on backward compatibility

While sparked by recent unicode discussions, backcompat is a serious and far-reaching issue that touches many, many aspects of Perl's core. We have a long tradition of going out of our way not to ...

Jesse Vincent
Dec 14, 2009 at 4:05 am
Dec 17, 2009 at 9:19 pm

42	[PATCH] New force_package_version uses scan_version

Instead of using a custom tokenizer to create an old-style dualvar version, use the version object code's scan_version, and produce a version object directly. This is only called by package name ...

John Peacock
Dec 18, 2009 at 2:07 am
Jan 14, 2010 at 10:51 am

30	RFC: Proposal to simplify, speed-up /i regex matching while fixing things

I woke up around 4am with an idea, which often happens to me, and this one so far has withstood the light of day. So here goes. The essence is to change the fold node (EXACTF) to list all the ...

Karl williamson
Dec 20, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Dec 28, 2009 at 9:50 am

28	RFC: New syntax to pass an extra block to a method

Hi, all. I'd like to proposed a new syntax to Perl, which allows to pass an extra block to a method like Ruby. What do you think of it? $obj- method(...){ my(@args) = @_; # ... }; It is simply ...

Goro Fuji
Dec 4, 2009 at 8:00 am
May 13, 2010 at 5:21 pm

28	PATCH: partial [perl #58182]: regex case-sensitive matching now utf8ness independent

I believe this resolves other bug reports, but haven't had time to look them up. The patch is both attached, and available at: git://github.com/khwilliamson/perl.git branch: matching This patch makes ...

Karl williamson
Dec 9, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Dec 13, 2009 at 6:57 pm

25	utf8::decode behaviour and return value when UTF-8 flag is set on latin1 and cyrillic strings

Hello, In the attachment you can find a script that demostrates different behaviour of utf8::decode on latin1 and not latin1 strings with UTF-8 flag set. I see two problems: 1) function returns error ...

Ruslan Zakirov
Dec 16, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Jan 1, 2010 at 8:10 am

25	Untangling woven web commits [was: Pushing patches through github]

FWIW, that is how I tend to work as well, and it is also why I love git and especially its concept of the index, paired with stuff like `git add -p`: it lets me work in this spiderweb way of making ...

Aristotle Pagaltzis
Dec 20, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Dec 20, 2009 at 3:49 pm

20	Pod::Abstract 0.19 generating warnings on 5.11.3

While trying to build Pod::Abstract 0.19 http://search.cpan.org/~blilburne/Pod-Abstract-0.19/ on perl 5.11.3 I got the following warning: UNIVERSAL- import is deprecated and will be removed in a ...

Gabor Szabo
Dec 23, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Dec 30, 2009 at 3:17 am

15	Blead is closed; I could use some smoke testers

In prep for final release engineering, I'd appreciate it if people could sanity check http://perl5.git.perl.org/perl.git/blob/HEAD:/pod/perl5113delta.pod Today saw rather more churn than I'd intended ...

Jesse
Dec 20, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Oct 19, 2014 at 12:26 am

14	5.11.3's CPAN shell fails silently

The following transcript is from a freshly built 5.11.3 using my pre-existing ~/.cpan and ~/.cpan/CPAN/Config.pm. The initial silent failure and later more verbose errors seemed wrong. $ ...

Joshua ben Jore
Dec 31, 2009 at 8:42 am
Jan 1, 2010 at 8:35 pm

13	failure of YAML::LibYAML-0.32 on perl 5.11.3

I am sorry I did not have the tuits to investigate further (on the same machine it installs well on home made 5.10.1) Gabor Running install for module 'YAML::LibYAML' Running make for ...

Gabor Szabo
Dec 23, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Mar 31, 2010 at 3:29 pm

12	HP-UX 10.20 blead

Smoke killed, manual build threaded debugging. What can I do to get more info? A full build+test takes about 4½ hours :( so binary searching will take weeks. Test Summary Report ------------------- ...

H.Merijn Brand
Dec 19, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Jan 3, 2010 at 9:16 pm

11	RFC: regex /i folding always use utf8?

I have been trying to solve the discrepancies involving the semantics being different when a scalar is stored in utf8 or not. To review, there are 3 major and 1 very minor known areas where this ...

Karl williamson
Dec 7, 2009 at 6:06 am
Dec 11, 2009 at 4:34 pm

11	version syntax

I'm not where I wanted to be,[1] but I wanted to confirm that I was still proceeding in the agreed-upon direction direction. The following is a distillation of the regular expressions discussed ...

John Peacock
Dec 8, 2009 at 3:20 am
Dec 8, 2009 at 5:50 pm

10	Blead on darwin fails with: "prerequisite File::HomeDir 0.69 not found"

...pages of build output... Running Makefile.PL in cpan/CPAN ../../miniperl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=perl INSTALLMAN1DIR=none INSTALLMAN3DIR=none PERL_CORE=1 LIBPERL_A=libperl.a Importing PAUSE public ...

Tim Bunce
Dec 22, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Dec 23, 2009 at 8:31 am

9	Smoke [5.10.1] perl-5.10.1-1-gca8de22 FAIL(F) MSWin32 WinXP/.Net SP3 (x86/2 cpu)

Automated smoke report for 5.10.1 patch ca8de220718ba91d5a5fdd9779497cd5b0250258 perl-5.10.1-1-gca8de22 maldoror.bath.planit.group: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz(~2660 MHz) (x86/2 cpu) on ...

Steve Hay
Dec 2, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Dec 31, 2009 at 11:38 pm

9	Perl 5 Commit Summary

Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Saturday Current branch blead 18 commits. 11 unique authors. 7 unique committers. 26 files changed, 408 insertions(+), 134 deletions(-) Thanks, applied: Rafael ...

Perl 5 commit summary
Dec 2, 2009 at 2:14 am
Dec 30, 2009 at 2:14 am

9	Should Unicode semantics be the default for Latin1 characters in 5.12?

I'm inclined to think not. I just think it is too much to spring on people with no real warning. As noted before, several CPAN modules that are in blead failed with this change. Gerard has said that ...

Karl williamson
Dec 13, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Dec 16, 2009 at 10:23 pm

9	legacy.pm and feature.pm

From reading the current documentation for legacy.pm and feature.pm in blead, it's not at all clear to me when we'd want to use legacy instead of feature. I know the decision to add a 'legacy' pragma ...

Jesse
Dec 10, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Dec 12, 2009 at 2:55 pm

9	How do bug reports get closed

I was under the impression that bug reports get automatically closed when a patch is accepted into blead for them. I thought that the subject line of the commit email triggered this. I submitted a ...

Karl williamson
Dec 3, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Dec 4, 2009 at 3:35 am

8	[fwd] [perl.git] branch blead, updated. v5.11.3-15-gbdaf0bc (from: jesse@bestpractical.com)

Karl Williamson pointed out to me that we were recommending single-line commit messages as "the right way to do things" in perlrepository.pod. I've taken a first stab at fleshing out some suggestions ...

Jesse
Dec 30, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Jan 18, 2010 at 7:01 pm

7	[perl #71452] Num ~~ numish does not behave as expected

# New Ticket Created by belg4mit@pthbb.org # Please include the string: [perl #71452] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

belg4mit@pthbb.org (via RT)
Dec 19, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Dec 21, 2009 at 3:11 pm

7	Encode not marking utf8

--8<--- use strict; use warnings; use Data::Peek; use Encode qw( encode decode ); my %x = ( foo = "H\xfctte", bar = "Fincke", ); print "1 $_ = ", DPeek ($x{$_}), ",\n" for "foo", "bar"; DDump ...

H.Merijn Brand
Dec 17, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Dec 17, 2009 at 5:51 pm

7	Re: [perl #71136] failure of (?\|pattern) and (?<NAME>pattern) to DWAW

perldoc perlre: (?<NAME pattern) A named capture buffer. Identical in every respect to normal capturing parentheses () but for the additional fact that %+ or %- may be used after a successful match ...

David Nicol
Dec 9, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Dec 16, 2009 at 1:02 pm

7	[patch for 5.12] mark S_more_bodies as may-change

hi folks, Lets mark S_more_bodies as may-change. Doing so, along with e5973ed5ed, gives us flexibility to rework things. Its already marked as 's'-STATIC, so we ought not to need to add the 'M', but ...

Jim Cromie
Dec 4, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Dec 4, 2009 at 9:52 pm

7	towards a docpatch wiki

would a wikilike interface to documentation, that works directly with git, be useful for this kind of thing? I think it would. Thoughts/links preferred off-list.

David Nicol
Dec 2, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Dec 3, 2009 at 10:03 am

6	Seeking clues re subtle change in behaviour under NYTProf

When I run the perl test suite under NYTProf assorted tests fail. I'm working my way through them, quietly cursing my masochism. This test in t/run/fresh_perl.t fails: ######## # Bug 20010515.004 my ...

Tim Bunce
Dec 17, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Jan 15, 2010 at 6:52 pm

6	PATCH: .pod updates for qr/\X/

Attached.

Karl williamson
Dec 21, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Dec 25, 2009 at 1:16 am

6	[perl #71172] New lvalue subroutine roadblock in 5.10.1 breaks important functionality

# New Ticket Created by craig deforest # Please include the string: [perl #71172] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Craig deforest
Dec 10, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Dec 18, 2009 at 11:11 pm

6	PathTools in cpan/Cwd

Is there a reason that the cpan dist "PathTools" is in core under the name "cpan/Cwd/" rather than "cpan/PathTools/"? -Jesse --

Jesse
Dec 10, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Dec 10, 2009 at 8:06 pm

6	deprecation of defined(%hash)

Why was this feature deprecated? Is there another way to check for the existence of a hash or array without creating the associated glob? None of the alternatives I have tried does what I want: main ...

Sean
Dec 8, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Dec 9, 2009 at 10:58 pm

6	Idea: Here-Documents for Regexes

Hi all! I've been playing a little with http://search.cpan.org/dist/Regexp-Grammars/ and it's very cool, but requires you to put everything inside one large regex: <<<<<< my $parser = qr{ . . # Regex ...

Shlomi Fish
Dec 3, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Dec 4, 2009 at 9:19 pm

6	Smoke [5.11.2] v5.11.2-105-gc2123ae FAIL(F) MSWin32 Win2000 SP4 (x86/1 cpu)

Automated smoke report for 5.11.2 patch c2123ae380a372d506d1b6938667bd785fd8728b v5.11.2-105-gc2123ae perl-win2k: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz(~2438 MHz) (x86/1 cpu) on MSWin32 - Win2000 ...

George Greer
Dec 3, 2009 at 2:00 am
Dec 4, 2009 at 3:21 pm

5	Bleadperl breaks CPAN: Template::Plugin::YAML::Encode 0.02

The distribution: XAICRON/Template-Plugin-YAML-Encode-0.02.tar.gz Fails since: v5.11.1-217-gf0e67a1 with parsing errors as in: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/12/msg6521115.html ...

Andreas J. Koenig
Dec 19, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Jan 5, 2010 at 10:08 pm

5	[perl #71784] Embedding regression building golly: Perl_newSV_type

# New Ticket Created by Hugo van der Sanden # Please include the string: [perl #71784] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Hugo van der Sanden
Dec 31, 2009 at 11:31 am
Dec 31, 2009 at 7:09 pm

5	What to show when user wants to know how while/if/until etc work?

In the Padre project we are trying to provide context sensitive help for every keyword, variable, operator and other syntactic elements of Perl. We would prefer to fetch everything from the pod ...

Gabor Szabo
Dec 6, 2009 at 9:05 am
Dec 12, 2009 at 7:27 pm

5	Please test DAGOLDEN/Module-Build-0.35_13.tar.gz

This is Release Candidate 3. Unless something pops up on some less-commonly tested platform, I expect this to be the final release candidate before Module::Build 0.36. Craig B. or John M. -- I'd ...

David Golden
Dec 7, 2009 at 3:07 am
Dec 8, 2009 at 10:04 pm

5	[PATCH] perlpod updates

These three patches implement minor but important changes to the Pod specification and documentation, discussed and approved on the pod-people list. In the near future, we hope to make perlpod and ...

Ricardo Signes
Dec 7, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Dec 8, 2009 at 10:01 am

5	perl 5.10 Solaris 10, x86/sparc

Hi, Im trying to build Perl 5.10.0 on Solaris 10 x86/sparc. Found out the following bug: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=37376#txn-125405 Im a bit confused how can I configure the ...

Stefan Parvu
Dec 4, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Dec 4, 2009 at 8:08 pm

5	PATCH: Update to Unicode 5.2 database (from 5.1)

This patch is located at git://github.com/khwilliamson/perl.git branch mktables. There were no code changes. I also changed the makefiles so that the mktables rebuild depends on lib/unicore/version ...

Karl williamson
Dec 3, 2009 at 4:41 am
Dec 3, 2009 at 4:27 pm

4	[perl #70998] Warning: Malformed UTF-8 character in substitution operation

# New Ticket Created by slavenr@iconmobile.com # Please include the string: [perl #70998] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

slavenr@iconmobile.com (via RT)
Dec 2, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Nov 2, 2010 at 10:48 am

4	[patch] advice regarding make regen products

doc recent advice about including changes wrought by 'make regen' in patches.

Jim Cromie
Dec 31, 2009 at 5:20 am
Jun 17, 2010 at 2:52 am

4	[perl #71506] Perl 5.11.3 fails t/op/pack tests on Linux x86_64

# New Ticket Created by Jesse # Please include the string: [perl #71506] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Jesse
Dec 21, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Jan 20, 2010 at 11:32 am

4	[perl #71686] [PATCH] Globs that are in symbol table can be un-globbed

# New Ticket Created by Lubomir Rintel # Please include the string: [perl #71686] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

Lubomir Rintel
Dec 28, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Jan 11, 2010 at 6:35 pm

4	[rfc-patch] whither PINLINE ?

back in Nov, Chip proposed a PINLINE macro. http://markmail.org/message/4afbktnvywp75wza#query:perl5%20porters%20pinline+page:1+mid:fagexmhiseugfim3+state:results IIUC, the discussion seemed to ...

Jim Cromie
Dec 27, 2009 at 12:07 am
Dec 31, 2009 at 4:08 pm

4	What should uc(), and its kin do under 'use bytes'

In documenting the new behavior of uc, I realized that under use bytes it uses ASCII semantics, and on EBCDIC machines, whatever the toupper() function returns. This seems like a bug to me. Shouldn't ...

Karl williamson
Dec 22, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Dec 23, 2009 at 7:43 pm

4	Win32 perls and -mms-bitfields

Hi, I had long considered my MinGW-built perl 5.10 (and Strawberry Perl 5.10) to be binary compatible with ActivePerl 5.10, and have only just discovered in the last few days that I was wrong - ...

Sisyphus
Dec 20, 2009 at 1:44 am
Dec 20, 2009 at 6:11 pm

4	5.11.3 tomorrow; I could use a hand with perldelta.

Tomorrow's the 20th. Which means it's time for another blead release. I've started in on the perldelta. I'd appreciate it if folks could check out the current sketch of a perl5113delta.pod and tell ...

Jesse
Dec 19, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Dec 20, 2009 at 7:32 am

4	[perl #71004] Pod::Simple Regression and Bug Fixes

# New Ticket Created by David Wheeler # Please include the string: [perl #71004] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...

David Wheeler
Dec 2, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Dec 10, 2009 at 5:56 pm

4	[PATCH 0/3] MAGIC fixes

Long rumored, here are the fixes for MAGIC + utf8 slowdown. Some time ago, production usage of Perl at Topsy fell afoul a bug in utf8 attribute caching in 5.10.1. The bug manifested as lvalue ...

Chip Salzenberg
Dec 6, 2009 at 5:23 am
Dec 8, 2009 at 4:19 pm

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