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  • We can start simple. I'd like to start simple because there's so many possible syntax expansions we could add in, but the most basic and obvious and EASIEST TO AGREE UPON solves 80% of the problem ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Jan 11, 2008 at 3:12 am
    Jan 17, 2008 at 1:35 am
  • I realize I wind up saying "someone who knows C should..." a lot and "I'm not a C programmer". I'd like to fix that, if nothing else then to not distract real C programmers from doing real work on ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Jan 18, 2008 at 4:25 pm
    Jan 24, 2008 at 2:48 pm
  • In a little under 30 years Unix will run out of time, the 2038 problem is upon us. Any software that has to calculate dates out past 30 years in the future cannot use Perl on a 32bit Unix system. ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Jan 20, 2008 at 10:32 am
    Feb 6, 2008 at 7:29 am
  • Hi folks, I'm currently in the process of making perl5 crosscompile'able. Since the handwritten configure shellscripts were totally unusable, I've moved evrything to autoconf. It seems I'll get the ...
    Enrico WeigeltEnrico Weigelt
    Jan 20, 2008 at 8:08 pm
    Jan 27, 2008 at 3:28 pm
  • # New Ticket Created by imacat@mail.imacat.idv.tw # Please include the string: [perl #49504] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...
    Imacat @ mail . imacat . idv . twImacat @ mail . imacat . idv . tw
    Jan 8, 2008 at 8:56 am
    Jan 25, 2008 at 4:54 am
  • I'd like to be able to tell whether the current sub was called as a method. A simple (to use) way to do this would be to make it available as a bool in the result of caller. confess "bad programmer, ...
    Ricardo SIGNESRicardo SIGNES
    Jan 10, 2008 at 8:23 pm
    Jan 16, 2008 at 2:04 pm
  • Inspired by Michael Schwern and others, the attached patch provides the following: 1. Documents the range of the range operator. 2. Correctly restricts the upper limit to exactly IV_MAX. 3. Fixes the ...
    Jerry D. HeddenJerry D. Hedden
    Jan 11, 2008 at 7:58 pm
    Jan 18, 2008 at 12:05 am
  • # New Ticket Created by "Ed Avis" # Please include the string: [perl #50146] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...
    Ed AvisEd Avis
    Jan 23, 2008 at 11:39 am
    Jun 2, 2008 at 1:28 pm
  • (this is Yak Shaving; the background is that I'm using dtrace to analyse which temporary files, directories and other global resources are used by core's tests) I've just been reading about Alan ...
    Andy ArmstrongAndy Armstrong
    Jan 5, 2008 at 7:10 pm
    Jan 9, 2008 at 1:44 pm
  • Hi all, there should be a new stricture to forbid treating a hardref as anything other than a hardref (ie throw an exception if it’s ever numified or stringified). The only legitimate use case this ...
    Aristotle PagaltzisAristotle Pagaltzis
    Jan 25, 2008 at 1:11 am
    Jan 31, 2008 at 4:31 pm
  • I've made a 5.8.x snapshot. http://www.ccl4.org/~nick/P/perl-32984.tar.bz2 (or http://www.ccl4.org/~nick/P/perl-32984.tar.gz ) I'm particularly curious how it fares on VMS, and which changes I've not ...
    Nicholas ClarkNicholas Clark
    Jan 16, 2008 at 5:07 pm
    Feb 11, 2008 at 6:07 pm
  • method foo { return $self- {foo}; } Equivalent to sub foo { my $self = shift; return $self- {foo}; } Simple. No more "my $self = shift". No backwards compat issues, it's currently a syntax error. And ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Jan 11, 2008 at 3:23 am
    Jan 13, 2008 at 1:37 am
  • This surprises me: $ perl -wE 'say "Inf" 1' 9223372036854775807 $ perl -wE 'say "Inf" << 1' 18446744073709551614 $ I expected "inf" as an answer, or otherwise at least a warning. Same for Nan: $ perl ...
    AbigailAbigail
    Jan 15, 2008 at 4:13 pm
    Jan 18, 2008 at 4:35 pm
  • If you look under cpan/src dir, you get this: [ ] devel.tar.gz 07-Jul-2007 12:13 14.8M [ ] devel.tar.gz.md5 25-Dec-2007 12:48 1k [ ] devel_is_5.9.5 25-Dec-2007 12:48 0k [TXT] foo.html 25-Dec-2007 ...
    Alberto SimõesAlberto Simões
    Jan 4, 2008 at 6:03 pm
    Jan 7, 2008 at 5:35 am
  • One thing that is very hard to do is make tail recursive OO code. This is ugly with plain functions, but at least works: @_ = ( ... ); goto $subref; for OO this still works like this: my $subref = ...
    Yuval KogmanYuval Kogman
    Jan 14, 2008 at 2:14 pm
    Nov 19, 2008 at 3:34 pm
  • I'm trying to revive the perl compiler suite as CPAN package. This is needed anyway. But I'm also looking into possible optimizations and true native code compilation (JIT) with some external ...
    Reini UrbanReini Urban
    Jan 22, 2008 at 4:19 pm
    Mar 18, 2008 at 9:29 pm
  • # New Ticket Created by Clinton A. Pierce # Please include the string: [perl #50352] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...
    Clinton A . PierceClinton A . Pierce
    Jan 28, 2008 at 7:33 pm
    Jan 30, 2008 at 3:05 pm
  • At PDX.pm tonight we were talking about parallel computing and prime numbers. Eric Willhelm was showing sample code like this: for( my $n = 2; ; $n++ ) { ... } My first thought was "yuck, C style for ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Jan 10, 2008 at 9:52 am
    Jan 12, 2008 at 12:37 am
  • alert me when I give map an arrayref instead of an array $ perl -le 'use warnings; print join "|", map {$_ + 2} [ 1..6 ]' 268504834 this happened to me today, as a function was returning an arrayref ...
    David NicolDavid Nicol
    Jan 24, 2008 at 11:45 pm
    Feb 18, 2008 at 2:39 pm
  • I don't need to write my own proposal, I can just borrow a Perl 6 one from Jarkko: http://dev.perl.org/perl6/rfc/43.html Most programmers don't understand floating point and are confused when the ...
    Leon BrocardLeon Brocard
    Jan 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    Jan 14, 2008 at 10:58 pm
  • As of patch 32953 dtrace support is in bleadperl (5.11.0). The probes are based on Alan Burlinson's original blog post on the subject: http://blogs.sun.com/alanbur/date/20050909 By guarding the ...
    Andy ArmstrongAndy Armstrong
    Jan 11, 2008 at 8:45 pm
    Jan 12, 2008 at 9:17 pm
  • # New Ticket Created by mls@suse.de # Please include the string: [perl #50114] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...
    Mls @ suse . deMls @ suse . de
    Jan 22, 2008 at 6:34 pm
    Feb 21, 2008 at 11:52 am
  • Currently, "SUPER" refers to the superclass(es) of the current package and not to the superclass(es) of the object. Also, the "SUPER" pseudo-class can only currently be used as a modifier to a method ...
    Johan VromansJohan Vromans
    Jan 17, 2008 at 10:07 am
    Jan 19, 2008 at 10:43 pm
  • 1e4 isn't large enough with long doubles on AMD 64. I tweaked things a bit for diagnostics: ok 123 not ok 124 # Failed test at lib/Math/Trig.t line 350. # got: 4.40340911283146079e+4342 # expected: ...
    Nicholas ClarkNicholas Clark
    Jan 9, 2008 at 11:49 am
    Jan 17, 2008 at 6:48 pm
  • # New Ticket Created by "Robert May" # Please include the string: [perl #50386] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...
    Robert MayRobert May
    Jan 29, 2008 at 8:19 pm
    May 27, 2008 at 9:41 pm
  • I'm afraid that $other_things have been somewhat delayed because I've been hacking on 5.11 a bit. I put various parts of struct context onto a diet, and made it one pointer and one IV smaller than ...
    Nicholas ClarkNicholas Clark
    Jan 24, 2008 at 2:25 pm
    Jan 29, 2008 at 10:41 am
  • Well, the subject says it all :) lc(undef) is the empty string. This might be good, this might be bad. In any case, I think it should be documented. Cheers ambs -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de ...
    Alberto SimõesAlberto Simões
    Jan 24, 2008 at 9:24 pm
    Jan 28, 2008 at 1:12 pm
  • ExtUtils/t/MM_Win32.t has been failing two tests lately: not ok 9 - catdir() # Failed test 'catdir()' # at ..\lib\ExtUtils\t\MM_Win32.t line 96. # got: 'C:trick\dir\now_OK' # expected: ...
    Steve HaySteve Hay
    Jan 31, 2008 at 11:19 am
    Feb 2, 2008 at 3:06 pm
  • Hi, Sorry if this is documented, I couldn't find it and a Google search came up empty. If I use a negative binding operator in void context I get a warning about it (when "use warnings;" is in ...
    Offer KayeOffer Kaye
    Jan 22, 2008 at 12:33 pm
    Jan 22, 2008 at 9:22 pm
  • This came up early last year: http://xrl.us/bd3wo I think it's come up before then, too. sub summary { my ($self) = @_; my sub thingsort { ($a- name cmp $b- name) || ($a- id <= $b- id) } if ($self- ...
    Ricardo SIGNESRicardo SIGNES
    Jan 10, 2008 at 8:39 pm
    Jan 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm
  • Just noticed this: $ bleadperl -e 'use 5.10.1' Feature bundle "5.10.1" is not supported by Perl 5.11.0 at -e line 1 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted ...
    Rafael Garcia-SuarezRafael Garcia-Suarez
    Jan 7, 2008 at 5:52 pm
    Jan 11, 2008 at 3:09 pm
  • $ perl5.8.8 -Mthreads -le 'sub t {$a=qr/(?{++$b})/; $b = 7; /$a$a/; print "9 == $b"} threads- new(\&t)- join' 9 == 9 $ ./perl -Ilib -Mthreads -le 'sub t {$a=qr/(?{++$b})/; $b = 7; /$a$a/; print "9 == ...
    Nicholas ClarkNicholas Clark
    Jan 9, 2008 at 6:07 pm
    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:05 pm
  • Something is wrong with this. It's causing 'make' to terminate right away with only: rm -f sperl.c /usr/bin/ln.exe -s perl.c sperl.c `sh cflags "optimize='-Os -pipe -funit-at-a-time -march=pentium4 ...
    Jerry D. HeddenJerry D. Hedden
    Jan 18, 2008 at 4:27 pm
    Jan 18, 2008 at 10:12 pm
  • Hi all, currently, it’s quite onerous to check whether a potentially undefined variable is equivalent to a non-empty string. The only way to avoid a warning is by the following test: if ( defined ...
    Aristotle PagaltzisAristotle Pagaltzis
    Jan 11, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    Jan 13, 2008 at 1:38 am
  • With blead@32879, the following warnings cause the build to die early on VMS: PM_SETRE(pm,ReREFCNT_inc(rx)); ........^ %CC-W-PTRMISMATCH, In this statement, the referenced type of the pointer value ...
    Craig A. BerryCraig A. Berry
    Jan 7, 2008 at 12:14 am
    Jan 10, 2008 at 2:46 pm
  • This was mentioned on #p5p today by mst, but I'm all for it. What's really needed to make a package more than a string that looks up in %::? What would it take to make it possible to have an ...
    Ricardo SIGNESRicardo SIGNES
    Jan 10, 2008 at 8:53 pm
    Jan 17, 2008 at 6:30 pm
  • This may bite a number of people who get 5.10. A test in an app started breaking after 5.8.8 - 5.10.0. Turned out that the test included Test::NoWarnings and the test was using a module that did ...
    Peter ScottPeter Scott
    Jan 5, 2008 at 10:10 am
    Jan 9, 2008 at 10:11 am
  • # New Ticket Created by "Zsbán Ambrus" # Please include the string: [perl #49264] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...
    Zsbán AmbrusZsbán Ambrus
    Jan 1, 2008 at 12:17 am
    Jan 8, 2008 at 10:09 pm
  • So we are told the way to mark a module as development is to use an underbar in the version number: $VERSION= "1.23_01"; but this will produce warnings if you assert a required version number, as the ...
    DemerphqDemerphq
    Jan 7, 2008 at 12:54 am
    Jan 7, 2008 at 11:27 am
  • # New Ticket Created by Heinz Knutzen # Please include the string: [perl #50250] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...
    Heinz KnutzenHeinz Knutzen
    Jan 25, 2008 at 10:20 pm
    Jun 8, 2009 at 7:23 pm
  • C++ puff puff. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Smoke [5.11.0] 33016 FAIL(XM) OSF1 V5.1 (EV6/4 cpu) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:20:32 +0200 (EET) From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@cc.hut.fi To: ...
    Jarkko HietaniemiJarkko Hietaniemi
    Jan 21, 2008 at 1:41 pm
    Feb 13, 2008 at 2:22 pm
  • This Week on perl5-porters - 20-26 January 2008 "Adding new lists of things [to remember] to a language is only a good idea if you're making money with certification." -- Juerd Waalboer, on why your ...
    David LandgrenDavid Landgren
    Jan 31, 2008 at 10:16 pm
    Feb 1, 2008 at 4:58 am
  • not ok 39 # line 221, got 0 # checking $i++ under use warnings 'imprecision'; not ok 40 # line 221, got 0 # checking --$i under use warnings 'imprecision'; not ok 41 # line 221, got 0 # checking $i-- ...
    Andreas J. KoenigAndreas J. Koenig
    Jan 18, 2008 at 4:56 am
    Jan 23, 2008 at 8:02 pm
  • I don't expect many of you to comment, but FYI and archive reasond: I am communicating with Refael Manfredi, the maintainer of metalint and metaconfig to fix thos to work with perl-5.10.x He already ...
    H.Merijn BrandH.Merijn Brand
    Jan 5, 2008 at 5:00 pm
    Jan 22, 2008 at 5:01 pm
  • pp_subst, in pp_hot.c has this: bool rxtainted; ... if (PL_tainted) rxtainted |= 2; [well, that's pretty good for a start. A three-value boolean? I'm about to commit a change to change it to U8, ...
    Nicholas ClarkNicholas Clark
    Jan 21, 2008 at 4:37 pm
    Jan 22, 2008 at 10:15 am
  • I'd love to see the slice syntax cleaned up. This would be a backwards incompatible change, but would more cleanly match expectations: use Data::Dumper; my $foo = [ qw/foo bar baz/ ]; my @foo = $foo- ...
    OvidOvid
    Jan 17, 2008 at 3:30 pm
    Jan 17, 2008 at 5:46 pm
  • # New Ticket Created by Mashrab Kuvatov # Please include the string: [perl #49646] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...
    Mashrab KuvatovMashrab Kuvatov
    Jan 11, 2008 at 4:07 pm
    Jan 16, 2008 at 7:14 am
  • This patch adds dtrace support and implements probe points on subroutine entry, exit. It incurs no measurable performance hit. It's enabled by $ ./Configure -Dusedtrace or $ ./Configure ...
    Andy ArmstrongAndy Armstrong
    Jan 10, 2008 at 10:21 pm
    Jan 11, 2008 at 6:37 pm
  • # New Ticket Created by Roland Giersig # Please include the string: [perl #49872] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # <URL: ...
    Roland GiersigRoland Giersig
    Jan 17, 2008 at 10:09 am
    Jan 18, 2008 at 2:37 pm
  • With the dtrace patch ./Configure under sh barfs on if ! foo I don't know what the correct idiom is for sh - but I fixed it by negating the condition and outputting a message on the true branch :) ...
    Andy ArmstrongAndy Armstrong
    Jan 11, 2008 at 7:34 pm
    Jan 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm
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