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  • [ CC'd to the Mpls Perl Monger list, Matt Sergeant, and David Wheeler, all of whom have expressed some interest in the topic. I'd suggest that further discussion be solely on the datetime@perl.org ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 9, 2003 at 10:04 pm
    Jan 18, 2003 at 6:21 am
  • So I'm starting to work on turning Date::ICal into DateTime.pm. The first step was a global search and replace. That part went well, and I was very proud of myself. I felt like a super-hacker ;) Then ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 11, 2003 at 5:52 am
    Jan 13, 2003 at 7:50 pm
  • I'm going to lay out my requirements for how this will work in order to constrain the discussion, because I really have a firm idea of how this needs to work. My constraints are: 1. A module should ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 14, 2003 at 7:16 pm
    Jan 25, 2003 at 5:00 pm
  • Seems to me that there is a difference between representing a particular date/time and attempting to represent accurately the number of seconds since time began (wherever you are measuring from). The ...
    Rich BowenRich Bowen
    Jan 13, 2003 at 6:39 pm
    Jan 26, 2003 at 12:33 am
  • No, this has nothing to do with Mr. Dominus. Rich, can you explain the pseudo-mjd system that Date::ICal uses for its internals? And why didn't you you use real MJD? Inquiring minds want to know. I ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 11, 2003 at 6:38 am
    Jan 18, 2003 at 6:58 am
  • Before going into the subject, I have one request to make: is it possible, please, to modularise the discussion on DateTime? There are two huge threads discussing all sorts of things. I have great ...
    Antonios ChristofidesAntonios Christofides
    Jan 12, 2003 at 12:29 pm
    Jan 15, 2003 at 8:54 pm
  • What should happen when someone does this: my $dt = ...; $dt- set( time_zone = 'America/Denver' ); and the new time zone is different from the old? There's two ways to do this. One is to keep the UTC ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 31, 2003 at 1:19 am
    Feb 1, 2003 at 11:52 pm
  • OK, folks, here's a heads up on the issue of license for the Calendrical Calculation code. The "commercial" statement below is not encouraging, but I'm sending him the licenses, and hoping for the ...
    Rich BowenRich Bowen
    Jan 16, 2003 at 9:24 pm
    Jan 18, 2003 at 6:31 am
  • I'm going to make a dictatorial declaration for this project. All code used in the project _must_ be licensed under the same terms as Perl itself. No arguing, no weird licenses, no "this software is ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 10, 2003 at 11:19 pm
    Jan 14, 2003 at 6:08 pm
  • Would someone do me the great favour of summarizing some things for me? Just the Goals and Design Principles would be great, an outline of the API(s) would be a bonus. I'm particularly interested in: ...
    Tim BunceTim Bunce
    Jan 24, 2003 at 3:32 pm
    Jan 30, 2003 at 10:52 pm
  • Ok, looks like Flavio wants to work on this, so let's start discussing this API. A quick summary of the existing Date::Set module. This module handles 4 different things that I am planning to break ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 15, 2003 at 7:20 pm
    Jan 22, 2003 at 5:09 pm
  • I just got my copy of Calendrical Calculations but I'm afraid to read it. The license in the book is _extremely_ restrictive, saying: The Functions (code, formulas, and calendar data) contained in ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 15, 2003 at 8:44 pm
    Jan 15, 2003 at 9:35 pm
  • I presume this is actually intentional: t/03components....ok 19/44Can't locate object method "ical" via package "DateTime" at t/03components.t line 36. If so, could you please remove the tests that ...
    Rich BowenRich Bowen
    Jan 19, 2003 at 3:38 pm
    Jan 20, 2003 at 2:05 pm
  • I just checked in a lot of new/changed code under modules/DateTime-TimeZone. This code actually seems to work, and provides access to the complete Olson historical data, plus ongoing time zone ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 27, 2003 at 9:56 pm
    Jan 31, 2003 at 3:05 pm
  • Someone who is watching the list more closely than I appear to be pointed out to me that some discussion had occurred about get/set attribute methods. I can't find that discussion, and don't feel ...
    Rich BowenRich Bowen
    Jan 24, 2003 at 11:45 am
    Jan 25, 2003 at 6:39 am
  • Not that most people can see it with anonymous and web CVS down on SF, but there's been some activity lately. First, I checked in the first stab at DateTime::Formats::ICal, as well as removing all ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 17, 2003 at 9:44 am
    Jan 21, 2003 at 6:16 pm
  • Anyone want to tell me what the %E* modifier is supposed to do for stftime? And do we need it? How about the %O* modifier? Is implementing that important? -dave /*======================= House ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 14, 2003 at 8:02 am
    Jan 19, 2003 at 12:23 am
  • I think the "make Gregorian explicit" line of reasoning actually supports moving the various calendars up to second-level namespaces, and filing the various Events and Algorithms at a level below ...
    Matthew Simon CavallettoMatthew Simon Cavalletto
    Jan 13, 2003 at 1:08 am
    Jan 13, 2003 at 7:10 pm
  • Jesse, could you summarize where you were at with Date::ICal::Timezone? I'm looking at the code and it seems to be at least mostly done, but there are pieces of the VTIMEZONE info that are ignored, ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 18, 2003 at 11:53 pm
    Jan 19, 2003 at 1:00 am
  • It's kind of weird for me to realize that I posted my "picking up the ball" message only last Thursday. Here's a quick review of what's been accomplished so far: - 318 messages to the list! That's ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 16, 2003 at 10:55 pm
    Jan 17, 2003 at 8:25 am
  • Monday! How exciting. I figured I might as well just pick something, and so I picked Monday. There were a lot of excellent candidates, and Friday's performance was excellent, but overall Monday best ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 14, 2003 at 6:12 am
    Jan 15, 2003 at 5:19 pm
  • Continuing the discussion with Rich Bowen (Mon, 13 Jan 2003 06:28:14 -0500 (EST)) In the Roman Empire, the day from sunrise to sunset was split into 12 hours. Therefore, you would have short hours in ...
    Jean ForgetJean Forget
    Jan 14, 2003 at 5:53 am
    Jan 14, 2003 at 2:20 pm
  • Are these going to be permissible initialization calls with the proposed API? my $dt1 = new DateTime "Yesterday"; my $dt2 = new DateTime "2002/01/04"; my $dt3 = new DateTime "1-4-2002"; # same as ...
    John PeacockJohn Peacock
    Jan 14, 2003 at 2:58 pm
    Jan 14, 2003 at 6:20 pm
  • I need to find more time to read through the flood of messages...but wanted to mention right away that things look to be going astray. Apologies if it is not so. What's the goal here? If it is ...
    Yitzchak Scott-ThoennesYitzchak Scott-Thoennes
    Jan 13, 2003 at 12:44 am
    Jan 13, 2003 at 7:39 am
  • Sorry for the delay. Just caught this off of "use Perl;" One thing to keep in mind: the only thing I (and most people whose code I maintain) want out of date parsing 9 times out of 10 is: $date = ...
    Aaron ShermanAaron Sherman
    Jan 31, 2003 at 3:36 pm
    Jan 31, 2003 at 4:46 pm
  • Hi, I am connecting to SQL database using Perl. Can anyone tell me how to obtain the current date in a format that SQL will understand? Thanks, Vinod. ...
    Sivasankaran, VinodSivasankaran, Vinod
    Jan 27, 2003 at 12:18 pm
    Jan 27, 2003 at 12:36 pm
  • Where can I download older postings from datetime@perl.org? I have been searching but not found anything. It would be nice if older postings were archived somewhere for downloading. I am new here and ...
    Peter J. AcklamPeter J. Acklam
    Jan 23, 2003 at 11:48 am
    Jan 23, 2003 at 7:49 pm
  • I'm trying to get the time zone stuff Jesse started working, but I've found a problem with using Date::Set. In Date::Set::ICal, it call - epoch on the Date::ICal object. This is a bad idea, since it ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 19, 2003 at 9:44 pm
    Jan 20, 2003 at 8:35 pm
  • Dave's original proposal was DateTime::Representation::... # where ... is e.g., MySQL 'Representation' is still very close to the correct *concept*, but not perfect; also kinda long, although as ...
    Bruce Van AllenBruce Van Allen
    Jan 20, 2003 at 7:34 pm
    Jan 20, 2003 at 7:46 pm
  • (...while I'm catching up on the archives; forgive me if this has been covered already) Please, for the love of all that is good and holy, just say NO to method or function names that begins with: ...
    John SiracusaJohn Siracusa
    Jan 18, 2003 at 3:46 pm
    Jan 18, 2003 at 7:06 pm
  • We need to handle them. Flavio claims that using floating point seconds makes this easier. I have an idea on how to handle it without that, but I'd like to hear Flavio's idea. And if anyone else has ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 14, 2003 at 6:35 am
    Jan 14, 2003 at 11:37 am
  • (sorry, didn't send to the list)
    FglockFglock
    Jan 13, 2003 at 8:10 pm
    Jan 13, 2003 at 8:23 pm
  • The epoch() method won't currently work if it's passed an epoch of "0". This patch should correct. +++ DateTime.pm Sun Jan 12 10:58:58 2003 @@ -201,8 +201,8 @@ my $epoch; - if ( $epoch = shift ) { # ...
    David WheelerDavid Wheeler
    Jan 12, 2003 at 7:02 pm
    Jan 13, 2003 at 7:01 pm
  • Could someone explain what exactly rata_die is, for us doing without Calendrical Calculations? thanks, Martijn
    Martijn van BeersMartijn van Beers
    Jan 13, 2003 at 3:07 pm
    Jan 13, 2003 at 3:40 pm
  • I've attached an initial implementation for this below, for discussion and possible inclusion in DateTime.pm. As with many calendar issues, there's more than one way to calculate week numbers; I ...
    Matthew Simon CavallettoMatthew Simon Cavalletto
    Jan 12, 2003 at 3:55 am
    Jan 12, 2003 at 11:03 pm
  • I'm trying to find a way to take 2 dates, such as 2003-01-08 & 2003-01-10 and see how many days there are between them. I started with the Date::Range module and that works ok. The thing is some of ...
    Darren YoungDarren Young
    Jan 9, 2003 at 7:54 pm
    Jan 9, 2003 at 8:03 pm
  • I did a lot of work on the code recently, including: - revamping the DateTime::Duration internals, and moving all the duration related bits in DateTime.pm (like end of month mode parameters) to ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 31, 2003 at 1:25 am
    Jan 31, 2003 at 1:25 am
  • Right now I'm calling it DateTime::TimeZone::OlsonDB, but that doesn't feel quite right. In fact, I'm not even sure it should be in DateTime::*, though it does _use_ DateTime.pm internally. Better ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 25, 2003 at 7:16 am
    Jan 25, 2003 at 7:16 am
  • So I'm hacking away at time zone code and getting darn close to producing something usable, dare I even say elegant? We'll see on both counts, I suppose ;) Anyway, I've been working with the raw ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 24, 2003 at 11:57 pm
    Jan 24, 2003 at 11:57 pm
  • I hoped that someone here might be able to help in this matter. I'm trying to convert a date from the Vedic calendar to the Gregorian calendar. Any pointers, or even an answer, would be greatly ...
    Rich BowenRich Bowen
    Jan 21, 2003 at 1:57 pm
    Jan 21, 2003 at 1:57 pm
  • Right now I'm working on taking the Date::ICal::Timezone code from the Reefknot project and reworking it a bit to fit into the DateTime project framework. Right now this mostly consists of renaming ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 18, 2003 at 11:27 pm
    Jan 18, 2003 at 11:27 pm
  • It looks like its back. For how long, who knows? ;) -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 17, 2003 at 7:17 pm
    Jan 17, 2003 at 7:17 pm
  • I just realized, as I'm about to start moving the ICal code in the DateTime.pm core to a separate module, that parsers and formatters should be used to deal with durations (ICal has a duration format ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 17, 2003 at 12:15 am
    Jan 17, 2003 at 12:15 am
  • Just as an FYI for all datetime implementors. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 15 Jan 2003 21:56:36 +0100 From: Claus Tondering <claus@tondering.dk To: Dave Rolsky <autarch@urth.org ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 15, 2003 at 9:10 pm
    Jan 15, 2003 at 9:10 pm
  • For those who care, CVS checkin diffs are sent to the perl-date-time-dev@lists.sf.net list (sign up via sourceforge). For now, I don't want to really discuss anything on that list, because the ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 14, 2003 at 8:07 am
    Jan 14, 2003 at 8:07 am
  • (sorry, didn't send to the list)
    FglockFglock
    Jan 13, 2003 at 8:10 pm
    Jan 13, 2003 at 8:10 pm
  • It is possible to make a separate class for timezones, in order to make the API clearer. Internally, however, the code converts everything to sets. See the example below. There are a lot of ...
    FglockFglock
    Jan 13, 2003 at 1:26 pm
    Jan 13, 2003 at 1:26 pm
  • For the archives: The proposed module Date::MySQL was renamed MySQL::DateFormat and is available on CPAN. Information on it is also available at ...
    Nick TonkinNick Tonkin
    Jan 12, 2003 at 6:32 pm
    Jan 12, 2003 at 6:32 pm
  • Woot! There it is in all its mishmash glory. I just imported my work so far on DateTime.pm (and its little helpers, DateTime::Language (and subclasses), and DateTime::Duration). DateTime.pm and ...
    Dave RolskyDave Rolsky
    Jan 11, 2003 at 9:57 pm
    Jan 11, 2003 at 9:57 pm
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