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  • Parsing in Perl6 ---------------- This working group is charged with developing a sufficiently powerful and flexible parser to support Perl's needs for the foreseeable future. Goals: ------ * The ...
    Kurt D. StarsinicKurt D. Starsinic
    Jul 19, 2000 at 7:58 pm
    Aug 1, 2000 at 3:20 pm
  • A few people have made comments to the effect that the number of mailing lists must not grow to be too large. But I think it would be a shame to decide this by accident. it seems to me that a ...
    Mjd-list-bootstrapMjd-list-bootstrap
    Jul 25, 2000 at 3:32 pm
    Jul 27, 2000 at 7:11 pm
  • I'm going to start writing up a requirements document, unless anyone stops me :) The intent of this document is to list, in full, all the issues and problems people think need to be addressed by Perl ...
    SkudSkud
    Jul 28, 2000 at 5:59 am
    Aug 2, 2000 at 4:56 am
  • Ask, please create these lists: perl6-internals@perl.org This list is for discussion of internals design, architecture changes, embedding, extending, and so on. perl6-language@perl.org This is for ...
    Nathan TorkingtonNathan Torkington
    Jul 28, 2000 at 6:35 am
    Aug 1, 2000 at 4:15 pm
  • I'd suggest simply telling prospective users to set P4USER to "anonymous" and let them each set their own unique P4CLIENT (or use the default of hostname). You can have passwords on all other ...
    James StricklandJames Strickland
    Jul 25, 2000 at 11:44 pm
    Jul 27, 2000 at 1:31 pm
  • Wow. First lesson learned is definitely to not announce something and then attend sessions at the conference :-) I've caught up on the discussions on the list. I'm glad to see that most people seem ...
    Nathan TorkingtonNathan Torkington
    Jul 24, 2000 at 2:18 am
    Jul 25, 2000 at 1:24 pm
  • we've talked about RFCs for Perl 6 features and so on. Perhaps we should come up with a something similar to PEP: http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/ notice the following features of a PEP: * there ...
    Brian d foyBrian d foy
    Jul 23, 2000 at 5:30 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 12:27 pm
  • Given that most topics do not have unanimous approval. What will be the decision making policy (and we have to include the meta-discussion of how the decision making policy itself will be ...
    Chaim FrenkelChaim Frenkel
    Jul 25, 2000 at 2:44 am
    Jul 28, 2000 at 12:11 pm
  • Dan Sugalski (lists.bootstrap): I encourage you - nay, I encourage *EVERYONE* - to look at glib. It's got threading. It's got safe signals. It's got hashes. It's got arrays. It's got a main event ...
    Simon CozensSimon Cozens
    Jul 24, 2000 at 2:47 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 3:27 am
  • perl6-internals@perl.org This list is for discussion of internals design, architecture changes, embedding, extending, and so on. perl6-language@perl.org This is for discussing user-visible changes to ...
    Nathan TorkingtonNathan Torkington
    Jul 26, 2000 at 4:10 pm
    Jul 30, 2000 at 5:48 am
  • So what is your suggestion for an alternative?
    Gary RichardsonGary Richardson
    Jul 24, 2000 at 5:11 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 11:41 am
  • Ben sent me this privately, with permission to forward it. He makes a bunch of points I agree with, so this saves me time typing them out. :) Simon ----- Forwarded message from Ben Tilly ...
    Simon CozensSimon Cozens
    Jul 27, 2000 at 2:51 am
    Jul 29, 2000 at 5:54 am
  • While I agree that Dick Hardt would probably do an excellent job as Customer Relations, he is also inextricably linked to ActiveState Tool Corp. My fear is that Dick, as the "official" Customer ...
    Dave ParisDave Paris
    Jul 27, 2000 at 8:53 am
    Jul 28, 2000 at 11:27 pm
  • This is somewhat of a followup/reply to the "Glad I'm not on bootstrap". Instead of using an email system to send info out to all of us, why not use a message board system. A message board would be ...
    SimonSimon
    Jul 27, 2000 at 5:23 pm
    Jul 29, 2000 at 5:36 am
  • In One Sentence --------------- All patches to perl must have an associated testing patch. Synopsis -------- It has often be said that perl defines perl. I'd like to change that a bit and say perl's ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Jul 26, 2000 at 8:51 pm
    Jul 28, 2000 at 3:09 pm
  • I suggest the following process: 1/ One or more people ("the editors") volunteer to collect suggestions from others about what problems they believe the perl language has *currently*. *Without* any ...
    Tim BunceTim Bunce
    Jul 24, 2000 at 7:45 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 10:57 am
  • I said I'd announce what I'd be hacking on on Friday, and this is it. This is the last I will say on the subject of Glib or other external libraries. http://perlhacker.org/~simon/sapphire-0.5.tar.gz ...
    Simon CozensSimon Cozens
    Jul 28, 2000 at 1:00 pm
    Jul 31, 2000 at 9:03 pm
  • DISCLAIMER: This is just an idea. It isn't necessarily a good one. Some people (Hi Simon!) have valiently been serving the role of Larry's Loyal Opposition and poking holes with the idea behind ...
    Adam TuroffAdam Turoff
    Jul 26, 2000 at 12:35 am
    Jul 27, 2000 at 9:37 am
  • I notice in the original perl6 announcement that although there is a "Customer Relations" person (Dick Hardt), there doesn't seem to be a Vendor Liaison person, that is someone who is responsible for ...
    Alan BurlisonAlan Burlison
    Jul 26, 2000 at 5:04 am
    Jul 26, 2000 at 6:35 pm
  • I don't know if this has been covered or not (I just subscribed and didn't see an archive for the list), but I'd like to propose some method, whether built into Perl6 or completely external, to ...
    PhilPhil
    Jul 25, 2000 at 9:18 pm
    Jul 26, 2000 at 3:56 pm
  • It'd be good to see a nice cross-platform mechanism to perform foreign function calls from shared libaries... that didn't consist of writing lots of C code or mystic XS macros. - XS is hard to learn ...
    Garrett GoebelGarrett Goebel
    Jul 31, 2000 at 6:20 pm
    Aug 2, 2000 at 6:54 am
  • i have twice tried to email perl6-language-subscribe@perl.org and it gets bounced. is it up yet? the tmtowtdi page shows only bootstrap and qa. ask said this list would be up sometime today. also ...
    Uri GuttmanUri Guttman
    Jul 29, 2000 at 6:39 am
    Aug 1, 2000 at 3:18 pm
  • Since everyone seems to be willing to yammer on about nothing in particular I'd like to introduce something a bit more concrete. The following was on the OpenBSD mailing list about a week ago, ...
    Elaine -HFB- AshtonElaine -HFB- Ashton
    Jul 29, 2000 at 5:38 am
    Jul 31, 2000 at 3:46 pm
  • I think this "meta-topic" is perhaps the most important one addressed on this bootstrap list: Should the Perl system require code to be distributed as source? Here I am referring to programs written ...
    Tolkin, SteveTolkin, Steve
    Jul 26, 2000 at 5:42 pm
    Jul 27, 2000 at 5:11 pm
  • ok, I guess I'm it... Fire away with your complaints && defects with perl5 (large and small). Be as clear as possible: 1) what complaint you have 2) the significance you see in the complaint 3) ...
    HorosHoros
    Jul 24, 2000 at 9:57 pm
    Jul 26, 2000 at 10:24 am
  • </LURK Hmmm... I'm really not enough of a Guru to be commenting to this list, yet, in this context, not being a guru makes me uniquely qualified to comment. Could some one explain to me in what way ...
    Flach, RobertFlach, Robert
    Jul 24, 2000 at 12:29 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 8:23 pm
  • i have been following this thread on a single p5p list vs. separate group lists and here are my current thoughts. i am in favor of multiple lists but we can easily solve the problem of those who want ...
    Uri GuttmanUri Guttman
    Jul 24, 2000 at 3:37 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 3:59 pm
  • Good point. I guess the best thing I can do is to post the pre-RFC of the point I had in mind. I realise this list isn't the right place for it, but I'm in something of a catch-22 situation. ...
    Andy WardleyAndy Wardley
    Jul 25, 2000 at 7:11 pm
    Jul 26, 2000 at 2:43 pm
  • What are the ideas floating around about the longevity of typeglobs? Would this infer that filehandles (and dirhandles (and formats)) would become native types (with their own sigils)? -- Jeff ...
    Jeff PinyanJeff Pinyan
    Jul 20, 2000 at 4:31 pm
    Jul 21, 2000 at 1:22 pm
  • at gnat's (wonderful) party i was interested to hear larry and gloria say they both disliked the term 'working group' and they and others were interested in a better name. larry proposed 'cloysters' ...
    Uri GuttmanUri Guttman
    Jul 23, 2000 at 4:12 am
    Jul 25, 2000 at 10:28 am
  • Moore, Paul (lists.bootstrap): I'm sure they will be. OK, I'll come clean. I'm doing some behind-the-scenes politicking to ensure that they will be. One of Glib's aims is portability. They're trying ...
    Simon CozensSimon Cozens
    Jul 24, 2000 at 3:32 pm
    Jul 24, 2000 at 11:15 pm
  • From the July 18, 2000 afternoon meeting at TPC4. Roles on the perl6 project: language design larry@wall.org quality assurance schwern@pobox.com doc repository ziggy@activestate.com librarian ...
    Adam TuroffAdam Turoff
    Jul 20, 2000 at 7:19 am
    Jul 24, 2000 at 9:01 am
  • it seems that most of the traffic on this list so far is almost entirely premature discussions about syntax, grammar, and implementation. i did see a posting come through a while ago about impending ...
    Brad ClawsieBrad Clawsie
    Jul 23, 2000 at 8:46 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 6:55 am
  • http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20000731/tc/developers_to_polish_new_perl_1.html I thought this article in the mainstream (but somewhat innaccurate) press might be of some interest. I have to echo ...
    TimbuTimbu
    Jul 31, 2000 at 3:39 pm
    Aug 2, 2000 at 11:58 pm
  • Jeez. I look at the bootstrap list and despite requests and admonitions, most of the discussion is still way off-topic. I cannot keep up. I find out that new lists are being set up without any ...
    Chris NandorChris Nandor
    Jul 31, 2000 at 1:44 pm
    Aug 2, 2000 at 7:30 pm
  • The bootstrap list's purpose was to get the ball rolling for the wishlist to RFC phase of perl6. That seems to have been done. I want to give public thanks to Dan Sugalski, Tim Bunce, and Kirrily ...
    Nathan TorkingtonNathan Torkington
    Jul 31, 2000 at 10:52 pm
    Aug 3, 2000 at 11:58 pm
  • I'd like to know what's happening with this, and how and when it will be decided. I'll admit that my interest is largely because it was suggested that I should think about applying for the role. I've ...
    SkudSkud
    Jul 27, 2000 at 3:20 am
    Jul 28, 2000 at 12:28 am
  • From: John Tobey <jtobey@john-edwin-tobey.org Got to, to preserve consistant destruction sematics (at least, until the mess currently referred to as "global destruction"). -- BKS Get Your Private, ...
    Benjamin StuhlBenjamin Stuhl
    Jul 20, 2000 at 7:49 pm
    Jul 21, 2000 at 4:10 am
  • Anything on language design or implementation is off-topic for the bootstrap list. Take it to the relevant working groups and mailing lists. People who forget this will be gently reminded by myself. ...
    Nathan TorkingtonNathan Torkington
    Jul 31, 2000 at 10:47 pm
    Aug 1, 2000 at 8:52 pm
  • Seems that sourceforge supports this feature. Here's an example: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/1289/0/ -- Kirrily Robert -- <skud@netizen.com.au -- http://netizen.com.au/ Open Source ...
    SkudSkud
    Jul 26, 2000 at 5:15 am
    Jul 26, 2000 at 6:05 pm
  • Hello all, I was thinking how great the method Php uses to execute code. (For those who don't know: Php is embedded right into a html page by using a code block. For example: <html <?php print "Hello ...
    WestonWeston
    Jul 21, 2000 at 6:53 am
    Jul 26, 2000 at 5:09 pm
  • the only issue with perforce is that there is no easy way to give everyone and their sister easy "full blown" read-only access to the system. But besides that I think we should go with perforce too ...
    Ask Bjoern HansenAsk Bjoern Hansen
    Jul 25, 2000 at 10:56 pm
    Jul 26, 2000 at 12:33 pm
  • Andy Wardley wrote [ pre-ante-RFC on merging Scalar/Array/Hashe variables ] My immediate reaction to this was "Interesting idea, but what about Perl 5 compatibility?". Which lead to the question "To ...
    M.J.T. GuyM.J.T. Guy
    Jul 25, 2000 at 9:08 pm
    Jul 26, 2000 at 7:37 am
  • This is due soon, so before I forget: The Internals Design job description ==================================== The whole point of this position is to be responsible for, though not necessarily ...
    Dan SugalskiDan Sugalski
    Jul 25, 2000 at 2:26 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 4:42 pm
  • Interesting. Does this mark the transition from a text processing language to a structured programming language? -- Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity. (via, but not ...
    Joshua N PritikinJoshua N Pritikin
    Jul 24, 2000 at 9:10 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 12:42 pm
  • I'm not a software engineer, nor do I play one on television. However, I took enough classes in university and hang around with enough people who *are* software engineers to know this one thing: ...
    SkudSkud
    Jul 25, 2000 at 3:31 am
    Jul 25, 2000 at 6:23 am
  • ok, we have seen discussions of glib as a possible way to get threads and other neat things. but i think there is a major misconception here. a perl thread has to be preemptable at the perl op level. ...
    Uri GuttmanUri Guttman
    Jul 24, 2000 at 5:39 pm
    Jul 25, 2000 at 1:26 am
  • Is it just me, or is bootstrap breaking threading? - Kurt
    Kurt D. StarsinicKurt D. Starsinic
    Jul 24, 2000 at 4:24 pm
    Jul 24, 2000 at 8:39 pm
  • From the July 18, 2000 afternoon meeting at TPC4. Near-term goals for the Perl6 project team (Dates relative to July 18): * press release [ Wednesday ] * create discussion list: bootstrap@perl.org [ ...
    Adam TuroffAdam Turoff
    Jul 20, 2000 at 7:27 am
    Jul 20, 2000 at 9:42 pm
  • In One Sentence --------------- All code examples in the Perl docs can be at a minimum tested for syntax errors in an automated fashion. Synopsis -------- Its common enough to put code examples into ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Jul 26, 2000 at 10:18 pm
    Jul 27, 2000 at 1:01 am
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