Simon,

The Open Relevance project appears to be dead, actually. A few months back
I did some work falling under the scope of that project, but no one ever
responded to various posts on the topic.

Is there anyone still interested in seeing this project evolving?

Itamar.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Simon Willnauer wrote:

=== Lucene Status Report: December 2011 ===

TLP


Trademarks:
We have not made progress on trademarks since the last board report, but
do intend to finish the necessary pieces.

* Project Naming And Descriptions :
We believe this is complete, but are still reviewing.
* Website Navigation Links : navbar links included, link to
www.apache.org included.
Likely complete, but under review.
* Trademark Attributions : attribution for all ASF marks included in
footers, etc.
The main TLP site is converted, subproject sites have not.
* Logos and Graphics : include TM, use consistent product logo on your
site In progress. Some have been converted to have TM, some not.
We don't seem to have ready volunteers on the graphical front,
so it is slower than we'd like
* Project Metadata : DOAP file checkedin and up to date
Done
* Once we finish migrating to the new CMS based Website trademarks
need to be re-evaluated.


LUCENE JAVA/Solr

Lucene Java is a search-engine toolkit and Solr is a search server
built on top of Lucene. The community is very active. The community
has made significant progress on cutting over to the Apache CMS.
The community has recently released Lucene & Solr 3.5.

Open Relevance Project

The Open Relevance Project is a project aimed at providing Lucene
and others tools for judging the quality of search and machine
learning approaches. The community is not very active, but
we don't expect it to be very high volume either as it is a niche
area.

PyLucene

PyLucene is a Python integration of Lucene Java. Development is
almost entirely an automated port, so this project will never
require a lot of developers. The community is active and is working
towards a PyLucene 3.5 release.

PyLucene 3.4.0 was released on September 19th.
PyLucene 3.5.0 should be released shortly, the release vote is pending.

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  • Patrick Durusau at Dec 13, 2011 at 8:44 pm
    Itamar,

    I joined only earlier this year but I am interested in seeing the
    project go forward.

    Hope you are having a great day!

    Patrick
    On 12/13/2011 03:39 PM, Itamar Syn-Hershko wrote:
    Simon,

    The Open Relevance project appears to be dead, actually. A few months back
    I did some work falling under the scope of that project, but no one ever
    responded to various posts on the topic.

    Is there anyone still interested in seeing this project evolving?

    Itamar.

    On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Simon Willnauerwrote:
    === Lucene Status Report: December 2011 ===

    TLP


    Trademarks:
    We have not made progress on trademarks since the last board report, but
    do intend to finish the necessary pieces.

    * Project Naming And Descriptions :
    We believe this is complete, but are still reviewing.
    * Website Navigation Links : navbar links included, link to
    www.apache.org included.
    Likely complete, but under review.
    * Trademark Attributions : attribution for all ASF marks included in
    footers, etc.
    The main TLP site is converted, subproject sites have not.
    * Logos and Graphics : include TM, use consistent product logo on your
    site In progress. Some have been converted to have TM, some not.
    We don't seem to have ready volunteers on the graphical front,
    so it is slower than we'd like
    * Project Metadata : DOAP file checkedin and up to date
    Done
    * Once we finish migrating to the new CMS based Website trademarks
    need to be re-evaluated.


    LUCENE JAVA/Solr

    Lucene Java is a search-engine toolkit and Solr is a search server
    built on top of Lucene. The community is very active. The community
    has made significant progress on cutting over to the Apache CMS.
    The community has recently released Lucene& Solr 3.5.

    Open Relevance Project

    The Open Relevance Project is a project aimed at providing Lucene
    and others tools for judging the quality of search and machine
    learning approaches. The community is not very active, but
    we don't expect it to be very high volume either as it is a niche
    area.

    PyLucene

    PyLucene is a Python integration of Lucene Java. Development is
    almost entirely an automated port, so this project will never
    require a lot of developers. The community is active and is working
    towards a PyLucene 3.5 release.

    PyLucene 3.4.0 was released on September 19th.
    PyLucene 3.5.0 should be released shortly, the release vote is pending.

    --
    Patrick Durusau
    patrick@durusau.net
    Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
    Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)
    Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
    Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)
    OASIS Technical Advisory Board (TAB) - member

    Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net
    Homepage: http://www.durusau.net
    Twitter: patrickDurusau
  • Grant Ingersoll at Dec 14, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Itamar Syn-Hershko wrote:

    Simon,

    The Open Relevance project appears to be dead, actually. A few months back
    I did some work falling under the scope of that project,
    Just to be clear, no donation was ever made. You did some work that you put up under your own server, etc. I personally didn't see it as something you were donating. If that's not the case, please put up a patch.
    but no one ever
    responded to various posts on the topic.

    Is there anyone still interested in seeing this project evolving?
    In theory, I am, but in reality, it just doesn't seem to have the legs to actually do the work in the project to put together the collections, etc. The work done by Robert so far should probably just be folded into Lucene's benchmark capabilities.

    Itamar.
    On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Simon Willnauer wrote:

    === Lucene Status Report: December 2011 ===

    TLP


    Trademarks:
    We have not made progress on trademarks since the last board report, but
    do intend to finish the necessary pieces.

    * Project Naming And Descriptions :
    We believe this is complete, but are still reviewing.
    * Website Navigation Links : navbar links included, link to
    www.apache.org included.
    Likely complete, but under review.
    * Trademark Attributions : attribution for all ASF marks included in
    footers, etc.
    The main TLP site is converted, subproject sites have not.
    * Logos and Graphics : include TM, use consistent product logo on your
    site In progress. Some have been converted to have TM, some not.
    We don't seem to have ready volunteers on the graphical front,
    so it is slower than we'd like
    * Project Metadata : DOAP file checkedin and up to date
    Done
    * Once we finish migrating to the new CMS based Website trademarks
    need to be re-evaluated.


    LUCENE JAVA/Solr

    Lucene Java is a search-engine toolkit and Solr is a search server
    built on top of Lucene. The community is very active. The community
    has made significant progress on cutting over to the Apache CMS.
    The community has recently released Lucene & Solr 3.5.

    Open Relevance Project

    The Open Relevance Project is a project aimed at providing Lucene
    and others tools for judging the quality of search and machine
    learning approaches. The community is not very active, but
    we don't expect it to be very high volume either as it is a niche
    area.

    PyLucene

    PyLucene is a Python integration of Lucene Java. Development is
    almost entirely an automated port, so this project will never
    require a lot of developers. The community is active and is working
    towards a PyLucene 3.5 release.

    PyLucene 3.4.0 was released on September 19th.
    PyLucene 3.5.0 should be released shortly, the release vote is pending.
    --------------------------------------------
    Grant Ingersoll
    http://www.lucidimagination.com
  • Itamar Syn-Hershko at Dec 14, 2011 at 10:14 pm
    Grant,

    No actual donation was made since no one ever responded to my messages. I
    wanted to shape the Orev application up before submitting it to the
    project, so I asked for your and others' help. Unfortunately I never got
    even a single response.

    All sources were already released under the ASL back then:
    https://github.com/synhershko/Orev

    I set it up on my personal server and emailed a few of you with a link to
    an early access, so we can test it and perfect it, without requiring you to
    install anything anywhere.

    I will not go into the trouble of making a patch when clearly there's no
    interest in this project. Hence my reply to Simon's report.

    I honestly think this could be a great project to advance open TR and
    Lucene, and we already have sort of a roadmap, but unless there's any
    interest we won't get anywhere...

    Itamar.
    On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:

    On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Itamar Syn-Hershko wrote:

    Simon,

    The Open Relevance project appears to be dead, actually. A few months back
    I did some work falling under the scope of that project,
    Just to be clear, no donation was ever made. You did some work that you
    put up under your own server, etc. I personally didn't see it as something
    you were donating. If that's not the case, please put up a patch.
    but no one ever
    responded to various posts on the topic.

    Is there anyone still interested in seeing this project evolving?
    In theory, I am, but in reality, it just doesn't seem to have the legs to
    actually do the work in the project to put together the collections, etc.
    The work done by Robert so far should probably just be folded into
    Lucene's benchmark capabilities.

    Itamar.
    On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Simon Willnauer wrote:

    === Lucene Status Report: December 2011 ===

    TLP


    Trademarks:
    We have not made progress on trademarks since the last board report, but
    do intend to finish the necessary pieces.

    * Project Naming And Descriptions :
    We believe this is complete, but are still reviewing.
    * Website Navigation Links : navbar links included, link to
    www.apache.org included.
    Likely complete, but under review.
    * Trademark Attributions : attribution for all ASF marks included in
    footers, etc.
    The main TLP site is converted, subproject sites have not.
    * Logos and Graphics : include TM, use consistent product logo on your
    site In progress. Some have been converted to have TM, some not.
    We don't seem to have ready volunteers on the graphical front,
    so it is slower than we'd like
    * Project Metadata : DOAP file checkedin and up to date
    Done
    * Once we finish migrating to the new CMS based Website trademarks
    need to be re-evaluated.


    LUCENE JAVA/Solr

    Lucene Java is a search-engine toolkit and Solr is a search server
    built on top of Lucene. The community is very active. The community
    has made significant progress on cutting over to the Apache CMS.
    The community has recently released Lucene & Solr 3.5.

    Open Relevance Project

    The Open Relevance Project is a project aimed at providing Lucene
    and others tools for judging the quality of search and machine
    learning approaches. The community is not very active, but
    we don't expect it to be very high volume either as it is a niche
    area.

    PyLucene

    PyLucene is a Python integration of Lucene Java. Development is
    almost entirely an automated port, so this project will never
    require a lot of developers. The community is active and is working
    towards a PyLucene 3.5 release.

    PyLucene 3.4.0 was released on September 19th.
    PyLucene 3.5.0 should be released shortly, the release vote is pending.
    --------------------------------------------
    Grant Ingersoll
    http://www.lucidimagination.com


  • Grant Ingersoll at Dec 15, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    On Dec 14, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Itamar Syn-Hershko wrote:

    Grant,

    No actual donation was made since no one ever responded to my messages. I
    wanted to shape the Orev application up before submitting it to the
    project, so I asked for your and others' help. Unfortunately I never got
    even a single response.

    All sources were already released under the ASL back then:
    https://github.com/synhershko/Orev
    That's fine, but that is far different from a patch. For me, the timing was bad due to travel/work and then the email got buried and forgotten.
    I set it up on my personal server and emailed a few of you with a link to
    an early access, so we can test it and perfect it, without requiring you to
    install anything anywhere.

    I will not go into the trouble of making a patch when clearly there's no
    interest in this project. Hence my reply to Simon's report.
    That's a chicken and egg problem. Most committers won't bother looking when there isn't a patch or something directly donated. Why expend the effort when the intentions are unclear? I should have communicated that back then. Nobody's fault, just some miscommunication.

    That being said, I agree this project feels dead, even though I don't think any of us ever thought it would be a big project.
    I honestly think this could be a great project to advance open TR and
    Lucene, and we already have sort of a roadmap, but unless there's any
    interest we won't get anywhere...
    Roadmap only gets us so far. We need people making real contributions to the project. I know I'm guilty of not being able to do it as I simply don't have the time. I think the project would be a great place for some digital library students and or IR researchers to come do work, but we need to get the word out to them that we are looking for help.

    Itamar.
    On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:

    On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Itamar Syn-Hershko wrote:

    Simon,

    The Open Relevance project appears to be dead, actually. A few months back
    I did some work falling under the scope of that project,
    Just to be clear, no donation was ever made. You did some work that you
    put up under your own server, etc. I personally didn't see it as something
    you were donating. If that's not the case, please put up a patch.
    but no one ever
    responded to various posts on the topic.

    Is there anyone still interested in seeing this project evolving?
    In theory, I am, but in reality, it just doesn't seem to have the legs to
    actually do the work in the project to put together the collections, etc.
    The work done by Robert so far should probably just be folded into
    Lucene's benchmark capabilities.

    Itamar.

    On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Simon Willnauer <simonw@apache.org>
    wrote:
    === Lucene Status Report: December 2011 ===

    TLP


    Trademarks:
    We have not made progress on trademarks since the last board report, but
    do intend to finish the necessary pieces.

    * Project Naming And Descriptions :
    We believe this is complete, but are still reviewing.
    * Website Navigation Links : navbar links included, link to
    www.apache.org included.
    Likely complete, but under review.
    * Trademark Attributions : attribution for all ASF marks included in
    footers, etc.
    The main TLP site is converted, subproject sites have not.
    * Logos and Graphics : include TM, use consistent product logo on your
    site In progress. Some have been converted to have TM, some not.
    We don't seem to have ready volunteers on the graphical front,
    so it is slower than we'd like
    * Project Metadata : DOAP file checkedin and up to date
    Done
    * Once we finish migrating to the new CMS based Website trademarks
    need to be re-evaluated.


    LUCENE JAVA/Solr

    Lucene Java is a search-engine toolkit and Solr is a search server
    built on top of Lucene. The community is very active. The community
    has made significant progress on cutting over to the Apache CMS.
    The community has recently released Lucene & Solr 3.5.

    Open Relevance Project

    The Open Relevance Project is a project aimed at providing Lucene
    and others tools for judging the quality of search and machine
    learning approaches. The community is not very active, but
    we don't expect it to be very high volume either as it is a niche
    area.

    PyLucene

    PyLucene is a Python integration of Lucene Java. Development is
    almost entirely an automated port, so this project will never
    require a lot of developers. The community is active and is working
    towards a PyLucene 3.5 release.

    PyLucene 3.4.0 was released on September 19th.
    PyLucene 3.5.0 should be released shortly, the release vote is pending.
    --------------------------------------------
    Grant Ingersoll
    http://www.lucidimagination.com


    --------------------------------------------
    Grant Ingersoll
    http://www.lucidimagination.com
  • Itamar Syn-Hershko at Dec 16, 2011 at 9:34 am
    Ok, so what's next?

    I'll be using Orev to measure IR performance in HebMorph, so I will be
    doing more work on it anyway. My hope was you IR champs are interested
    enough in OR to chip in with commentary or advice so we can do it right.
    Still hoping...

    If you're saying putting this up as a patch will bring more attention I
    will do that - but I'll probably need some guidance on that.

    Itamar.
    On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:

    On Dec 14, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Itamar Syn-Hershko wrote:

    Grant,

    No actual donation was made since no one ever responded to my messages. I
    wanted to shape the Orev application up before submitting it to the
    project, so I asked for your and others' help. Unfortunately I never got
    even a single response.

    All sources were already released under the ASL back then:
    https://github.com/synhershko/Orev
    That's fine, but that is far different from a patch. For me, the timing
    was bad due to travel/work and then the email got buried and forgotten.
    I set it up on my personal server and emailed a few of you with a link to
    an early access, so we can test it and perfect it, without requiring you to
    install anything anywhere.

    I will not go into the trouble of making a patch when clearly there's no
    interest in this project. Hence my reply to Simon's report.
    That's a chicken and egg problem. Most committers won't bother looking
    when there isn't a patch or something directly donated. Why expend the
    effort when the intentions are unclear? I should have communicated that
    back then. Nobody's fault, just some miscommunication.

    That being said, I agree this project feels dead, even though I don't
    think any of us ever thought it would be a big project.
    I honestly think this could be a great project to advance open TR and
    Lucene, and we already have sort of a roadmap, but unless there's any
    interest we won't get anywhere...
    Roadmap only gets us so far. We need people making real contributions to
    the project. I know I'm guilty of not being able to do it as I simply
    don't have the time. I think the project would be a great place for some
    digital library students and or IR researchers to come do work, but we need
    to get the word out to them that we are looking for help.

    Itamar.

    On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsingers@apache.org
    wrote:
    On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Itamar Syn-Hershko wrote:

    Simon,

    The Open Relevance project appears to be dead, actually. A few months back
    I did some work falling under the scope of that project,
    Just to be clear, no donation was ever made. You did some work that you
    put up under your own server, etc. I personally didn't see it as
    something
    you were donating. If that's not the case, please put up a patch.
    but no one ever
    responded to various posts on the topic.

    Is there anyone still interested in seeing this project evolving?
    In theory, I am, but in reality, it just doesn't seem to have the legs
    to
    actually do the work in the project to put together the collections,
    etc.
    The work done by Robert so far should probably just be folded into
    Lucene's benchmark capabilities.

    Itamar.

    On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Simon Willnauer <simonw@apache.org>
    wrote:
    === Lucene Status Report: December 2011 ===

    TLP


    Trademarks:
    We have not made progress on trademarks since the last board report,
    but
    do intend to finish the necessary pieces.

    * Project Naming And Descriptions :
    We believe this is complete, but are still reviewing.
    * Website Navigation Links : navbar links included, link to
    www.apache.org included.
    Likely complete, but under review.
    * Trademark Attributions : attribution for all ASF marks included in
    footers, etc.
    The main TLP site is converted, subproject sites have not.
    * Logos and Graphics : include TM, use consistent product logo on
    your
    site In progress. Some have been converted to have TM, some not.
    We don't seem to have ready volunteers on the graphical front,
    so it is slower than we'd like
    * Project Metadata : DOAP file checkedin and up to date
    Done
    * Once we finish migrating to the new CMS based Website trademarks
    need to be re-evaluated.


    LUCENE JAVA/Solr

    Lucene Java is a search-engine toolkit and Solr is a search server
    built on top of Lucene. The community is very active. The community
    has made significant progress on cutting over to the Apache CMS.
    The community has recently released Lucene & Solr 3.5.

    Open Relevance Project

    The Open Relevance Project is a project aimed at providing Lucene
    and others tools for judging the quality of search and machine
    learning approaches. The community is not very active, but
    we don't expect it to be very high volume either as it is a niche
    area.

    PyLucene

    PyLucene is a Python integration of Lucene Java. Development is
    almost entirely an automated port, so this project will never
    require a lot of developers. The community is active and is working
    towards a PyLucene 3.5 release.

    PyLucene 3.4.0 was released on September 19th.
    PyLucene 3.5.0 should be released shortly, the release vote is
    pending.
    --------------------------------------------
    Grant Ingersoll
    http://www.lucidimagination.com


    --------------------------------------------
    Grant Ingersoll
    http://www.lucidimagination.com


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