Richard Foley (richard...@rfi.net)

Taken off-list, as suggested.

If that's what's needed, I'd be happy to help put a proposal together.

This was a damned good idea, to do something concrete for Perl.  Nearly 6 
months later has anything happened with it?  Has TPF:

1. approved the idea?

2. allocated (freely donated) funds?

3. created a procedure/team to handle the administration of this effort?

...yet?

Seeing as it happens with (eg.) CGI (etc.), this suggests a debugger bug.

richard@thpad:~> perl -MCGI -de 0

Loading DB routines from perl5db.pl version 1.3
Editor support available.

Enter h or `h h' for help, or `man perldebug' for more help.

main::(-e:1):   0
  DB<1> m CGI->new
Not a subroutine reference at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/perl5db.pl line 7934.
at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/perl5db.pl line 7934
        DB::methods_via('CGI', '', 1) called 
at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/perl5db.pl line 7904
        DB::methods('CGI=HASH(0xd73f00)') called 
at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/perl5db.pl line 670
        DB::eval called at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/perl5db.pl line 3436
        DB::DB called at -e line 1
Debugged program terminated.  Use q to quit or R to restart,
  use o inhibit_exit to avoid stopping after program termination,
  h q, h R or h o to get additional info.
  DB<2>                   

The relevant bit is here (xxx):

7920 sub methods_via {
7921
7922     # If we've processed this class already, just quit.
7923     my $class = shift;
7924     return if $seen{$class}++;
7925
7926     # This is a package that is contributing the methods we're about to 
print.
7927     my $prefix  = shift;
7928     my $prepend = $prefix ? "via $prefix: " : '';
7929
7930     my $name;
7931     for $name (
7932
7933         # Keep if this is a defined subroutine in this class.
7934         grep { defined &{ ${"${class}::"}{$_} } }   # <- here (xxx)!
7935
7936         # Extract from all the symbols in this class.
7937         sort keys %{"${class}::"}
7938       )
7939     {
7940
7941         # If we printed this already, skip it.
7942         next if $seen{$name}++;
7943
7944         # Print the new method name.
7945         local $\ = '';
7946         local $, = '';
7947         print $DB::OUT "$prepend$name\n";
7948     } ## end for $name (grep { defined...

With the corollary of "forgive me in advance for speaking", and in the
interests of getting something kicked out the door, how about:

0. Stop pussy-footing around and focus on *one* single task.

1. Take Rafael's suggestion as his "going out" present (last request).

2. Do: "the sanitization of Unicode semantics".

3. Release 5.12 - and it's (like the man said) done.