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621) Les Mikesell Re: Good Bye FC5
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In case people don't understand what you mean by that, you can simply drag things out of the gnome...
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On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 09:48, Karl Larsen wrote:
> > - The nautilus button-3 menu doesn't offer a terminal. The
> > nautilus-open-terminal package adds one, but it's in the middle
> > of the menu where it's less convenient, and it always opens the
> > terminal on display :0.0, even when used from another display.
> >   
> I solved that by accident Johnny, I slid the application control
> from the list to the top where it's always available. Took a minute.

In case people don't understand what you mean by that, you can
simply drag things out of the gnome menus onto the desktop
where they become double-click launchers or onto the quick-launch
panel (by the firefox/evolution/OO icons) where they start with
a single click.  I've usually done that with the terminal icon
even on versions that had it on the right-click menu.

Now, does anyone know how to execute the gnome menu button
remotely?  I normally connect to several different machines
and would like to have access to their menus and be able to
launch any available program without having to run the rest
of the desktop remotely.

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622) Les Mikesell Re: fc5: install everything?
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Interesting - the equivalent to Centos but with fedora as the base... However if all you really...
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On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 17:48, Michael A. Peters wrote:

> One of the issues though with doing this (grrr) is the Fedora Trademark.
> To do it - all the Fedora artwork legally has to be removed and
> replaced.

Interesting - the equivalent to Centos but with fedora as the
base...

However if all you really want to do is become the expert who
decides what 'everything' means for some set of people that
might care about your opinion, couldn't you do that by
publishing the output of some invocation of 'rpm -q' in
a format that could be used directly by anyone's yum to
load up the same packages?

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623) Les Mikesell Re: I had high hopes for FC5, damn...
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There is a lot of old documentation around that still says you have to extract all the rpms into a...
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On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:43, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> >
> > Using the NFS method you can just point anaconda at the directory on
> > the NFS server containing the iso (or iso's if you use the cd images)
> > and anaconda will take care of reading the files from the iso. No
> > loopback mounting needed on your part. It's quite handy.
> >
> Very handy. Yet people say Linux is soo hard to install. :(

There is a lot of old documentation around that still says you
have to extract all the rpms into a common directory to do
a network install.   And it could be better: the boot sequence
has a timeout so if you walk away and aren't there at the
exactly the right time to enter 'linux askmethod' at the boot
prompt (and servers with a lot of RAM to test can take a long
time to get there) it bypasses the option and tries to install
from the CD's you didn't burn.   I'd rather see 'askmethod'
as the default, with the local CD as the default choice so
it's just one more keypress if you do use the CDs but you'd
always get your choice.

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624) Les Mikesell Re: I had high hopes for FC5, damn...
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The installer does all the magic necessary. Just download the iso images to a directory under an...
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On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 13:45, [email protected: cl...@dwf.com] wrote:
> >
> > NFS is really the easy way to go if it isn't your first
> > linux install. Just download the iso images to an nfs-exported
> > directory, burn only the first disk and boot from it with
> > 'linux askmethod' at the boot prompt. Then pick nfs as
> > the method and fill in the server / directory info.
> >
> I must be missing something here.
> I can understand downloading the iso images, making CDs, then reading the
> CDs in to disk. At that point you can do a Disk or FTP install.
>
> You seem to be saying that with NFS you can use the iso images directly.
> I know its possible to do some sort of strange mount on these iso images
> and see the actual data, but I was going to have to look that up,- you seem
> to be saying that there is a askmethod method that can use them directly
> with NFS. Im going to have to load the CD and see just what it says when
> I try.

The installer does all the magic necessary.  Just download
the iso images to a directory under an nfs export and when
installing fill in the nfs server and the path to that directory.
The loopback mounts of the individual isos happen under
the covers during the install.

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625) Les Mikesell Re: I had high hopes for FC5, damn...
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Thanks - but it looks like everything has to be on one server for this to work. I was hoping to let...
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On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 10:42, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > >
> > > My bootpxe can install FC3, FC4 (i386/x86_64), FC5 (i386/x86_64) and
> > > CentOS 4 (x86_64).
> > > Once you setup the initial bootpxe configuration, you can have it handle
> > > multiple concurrent configurations. (You'll just need the vmlinuz +
> > > initrd image for each kernel pair + ISO files)
> >
> > How do you control which of those is loaded when you boot a new
> > client? I'd like to do that at the client side - and have a
> > timeout/default to load the ltsp thin client instead of an
> > installer.
> >
>
> Simple: You create a configuration menu
> under /tftpboot/pxlinux.cfg/default (And a boot message file
> in /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/boot.msg).
> Once configured, much like lilo, the user can select which kernel (and
> kernel configuration) he/she wants to load.
> http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php#config
>

Thanks - but it looks like everything has to be on one server
for this to work.  I was hoping to let the menu select from
several servers for the actual kernel/initrd load so they
could be maintained separately.  Did I miss something or is
that not possible?

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626) Les Mikesell Re: sendmail problem
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It's not /etc/hosts. It is the system hostname, which you can set with the hostname command or with...
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On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 11:14, [email protected: Mike...@indystar.com] wrote:
> Yes, you are correct, /etc/hosts does seem to be the key but what I've
> run into is that changing the 127.0.0.1 line by making the hostname
> fully qualified breaks other things on production servers. I'll
> probably wind up using define(`confDOMAIN_NAME’, `xx.xx.xx')dnl to set
> macro $j in sendmail.cf. That effectively bypasses the /etc/hosts
> issue.

It's not /etc/hosts.  It is the system hostname, which you
can set with the hostname command or with the fedora GUI
system-config-network program.  Sendmail must be restarted to
pick up the new name.

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627) Les Mikesell Re: sendmail problem
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And on fedora systems, this will be set to whatever you put in the Hostname: field under the DNS...
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On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 11:26, Ron Watson wrote:
> >
> By "setting your hostname" I was speaking not of the sendmail config,
> but of the hostname(1) cmd.

And on fedora systems, this will be set to whatever you
put in the Hostname: field under the DNS tab in the
system-config-network program.

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628) Les Mikesell Re: I had high hopes for FC5, damn...
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How do you control which of those is loaded when you boot a new client? I'd like to do that at the...
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On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 09:30, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > >
> > > No need to burn the first CD. In the long run, it's much easier to setup
> > > a pxeboot/tftp setup and boot from the network...
> >
> > Is there a way to do this that isn't version-specific? With
> > the CDs I've always had to boot from the exact version
> > that I wanted to install and I normally have several
> > NFS-installable copies on line at once (different fedora's,
> > centos, k12tsp, etc.). And I have a default network boot
> > for ltsp thin clients. Is there a way to set up a network
> > grub boot or something similar that could give a menu for
> > the load wanted?
> >
>
> My bootpxe can install FC3, FC4 (i386/x86_64), FC5 (i386/x86_64) and
> CentOS 4 (x86_64).
> Once you setup the initial bootpxe configuration, you can have it handle
> multiple concurrent configurations. (You'll just need the vmlinuz +
> initrd image for each kernel pair + ISO files)

How do you control which of those is loaded when you boot a new
client?  I'd like to do that at the client side - and have a
timeout/default to load the ltsp thin client instead of an
installer.

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629) Les Mikesell Re: I had high hopes for FC5, damn...
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Is there a way to do this that isn't version-specific? With the CDs I've always had to boot from...
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On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:58, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> >
>
> No need to burn the first CD. In the long run, it's much easier to setup
> a pxeboot/tftp setup and boot from the network...

Is there a way to do this that isn't version-specific?  With
the CDs I've always had to boot from the exact version
that I wanted to install and I normally have several
NFS-installable copies on line at once (different fedora's,
centos, k12tsp, etc.).  And I have a default network boot
for ltsp thin clients.  Is there a way to set up a network
grub boot or something similar that could give a menu for
the load wanted?

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630) Les Mikesell Re: I had high hopes for FC5, damn...
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NFS is really the easy way to go if it isn't your first linux install. Just download the iso images...
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On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 03:00, Reg Clemens wrote:
> >
> > I've personally installed using an external hard drive before. So I can
> > verify that works. I haven't tried the others but they're still
> > available options on the boot CD so I have to assume they're still valid.
> >
>
> Yes, well Id decided that the next try would be HardDisk (to the first machine)
> and then FTP to the rest, I was just wanted to put my complaint down on the
> list, and see if others were having the same problem. Just seems like a
> silly change.

NFS is really the easy way to go if it isn't your first
linux install.  Just download the iso images to an nfs-exported
directory, burn only the first disk and boot from it with
'linux askmethod' at the boot prompt.  Then pick nfs as
the method and fill in the server / directory info.  

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631) Les Mikesell Re: PDF manuals
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There is also an assortment of things to be found here: http://www.tldp.org/tldp-redirect.php
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On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 20:39, Michael A. Peters wrote:
> >
> > Nice. A while ago I found a nice solution to doing the same sort of
> > thing but outputing HTML, which is more useful to me than PDF. I'll
> > have to look that up again. But do you know of any way to stop man from
> > splitting words and hyphenating them across margins? Sometimes it
> > happens in the worst of places.
>
> try rman for html conversion - I don't know if it solves your problem,
> but it is the best man to html converter I have seen.
>
> Most cases it can go straight from the man page - a few obscure cases,
> you need to have man format the page first to file.

There is also an assortment of things to be found here:
http://www.tldp.org/tldp-redirect.php

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632) Les Mikesell Re: fc5: install everything?
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I think you've forgotten the way they learn about these things they change daily....
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On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 12:09, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

> > > > And for your users that *are* developers???
> > >
> > > They *know* what they need.
> >
> > You're engaging in wishful thinking. I'm not a developer,
> That's apparent. As I've said before, developers *know*, or more
> precisely, are supposed to know what they are doing.

I think you've forgotten the way they learn about these things
(which is not by avoiding installing them) and the fact that
they change daily.

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633) Les Mikesell Re: VMware wants C headers at /usr/src/linux/include
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The same thing happened to me although I kept the current kernel and it worked after removing and...
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On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 10:23, James Pifer wrote:
> >
> > Did you actually try to rerun the script after installing kernel-devel?
> > I've seen the error you see when kernel-devel is missing, but
> > vmware-config finds the right place once kernel-devel is installed.
> >
>
> I went back to the original FC5 kernel and removed all the other ones.
> Then I reinstalled the devel package, ran the script, and then it found
> it. I've installed kernel-devel packages before with no problem, this
> was just a weird case. vmplayer is working well now.

The same thing happened to me although I kept the current kernel
and it worked after removing and re-installing kernel-devel
and kernel-smp-devel.  As far as I could tell the same versions
were re-installed but I might have missed something in the
process.

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634) Les Mikesell Re: fc5: install everything?
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That's the real issue - the developers have no concept of real-world use and have no intention to....
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