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1) John Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Dropping postgres as a whole.
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An issue with PG (or Pg) is that it is used for other things with about 170m Google hits. One use...
PostgreSQL - Advocacy
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On 9/27/07, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote:
>
> I was just talking with one of my developers (Alexey) and he said, why
> not just use Pg. Which is an interesting point. Consider that Volkswagen
> is properly known as Volkswagen but commonly (and most of the time)
> referred to as VW.
>
> Why don't we just stop this whole PostgreSQL->Postgres->Postgre junk and
> just say, PostgreSQL, also referred to as PG.
>
> Heck, I know plenty of people that just say PG, or PGSQL, myself included.


An issue with PG (or Pg) is that it is used for other things with about 170m
Google hits.

One use of PG is as an abbreviation of Proctor & Gamble, a Fortune 25
company at pg.com and the PG stock symbol. Coincidentally, they are one of
the big practitioners of brand management.

Would this be similar to naming a software project GM, a la General Motors?
2) John Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Change the name
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One of the proposals is to have 'Post-gre' become an accepted name along with PostgreSQL and...
PostgreSQL - Advocacy
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On 9/25/07, Satoshi Nagayasu <snaga@snaga.org> wrote:
>
> In Japan, many people pronounce 'Post-gres' or 'Pos-gre',
> but such ambiguous pronunciation is not a serious problem
> for us (PostgreSQL community). In fact, PostgreSQL has
> many users and large market-share in Japan.


One of the proposals is to have 'Post-gre' become an accepted name along
with PostgreSQL and Postgres. This may solve the situation.

Do you really think that changing the name could benefit/help
> the PostgreSQL users/developers?


In the US market, it's quite possible that having an easy to pronounce name
would help adoption. Business people wouldn't be corrected in their
pronunciation, feel more comfortable and adopt it faster, creating more
projects and jobs for PostgreSQL users/developers so there is a potential
benefit.

I think it is a useful goal to get to the point where people aren't
constantly correcting other people in how PostgreSQL is supposed to be
pronounced. For an analogy, one goal of UI design is to eliminate extraneous
steps to make the process as fast and convenient as possible, no
extraneously mouse clicks or cursor movement. In marketing/sales, it's
useful to eliminate extraneous steps like having many people be corrected in
their pronunciation a lot. There are two ways to go about this:

(a) change the name so it's hard to mispronounce, e.g. Postgres
(b) accept alternate pronunciations like Postgre and Postgre Sequel

It would be nice if we got to the point where people weren't constantly
being corrected in their pronunciation, whether it's through making the
pronunciation more inline with the spelling or to have people be more
accepting.
3) John Re: [Catalyst] Re: Planet Catalyst added to FeedBurner
| +1 vote
The temporary redirect is now up showing 33 subscribers.
Catalyst Framework
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On 9/10/07, John Wang <johncwang@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 9/10/07, A. Pagaltzis <pagaltzis@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > The correct way to do FeedBurner is to issue a temporary(!)
> > redirect for everyone who requests the feed from planet.* and
> > never advertise the FeedBurner feed directly.
>
>
> Good idea. I'll set that up.


The temporary redirect is now up showing 33 subscribers.

--
John Wang
http://www.dev411.com/blog/

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4) John Re: [Catalyst] Re: Planet Catalyst added to FeedBurner
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Good idea. I'll set that up.
Catalyst Framework
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On 9/10/07, A. Pagaltzis <pagaltzis@gmx.de> wrote:
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> * John Wang <johncwang@gmail.com> [2007-09-10 17:05]:
> > The existing planet.catalystframework.org feeds continue to
> > work, but please consider changing your URI to the new
> > FeedBurner feed:
> >
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/PlanetCatalyst
>
> The correct way to do FeedBurner is to issue a temporary(!)
> redirect for everyone who requests the feed from planet.* and
> never advertise the FeedBurner feed directly.
>
> That way you get to a) switch away from FeedBurner anytime you
> want to and b) route everyone who's already subscribed through
> FeedBurner.


Good idea. I'll set that up.

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John Wang
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5) John [Catalyst] Planet Catalyst added to FeedBurner
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Planet Catalyst's feed is now available on FeedBurner. The existing planet.catalystframework.org...
Catalyst Framework
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Planet Catalyst's feed is now available on FeedBurner.

The existing planet.catalystframework.org feeds continue to work, but please
consider changing your URI to the new FeedBurner feed:

http://feeds.feedburner.com/PlanetCatalyst

The primary reason for this is to show interest in Catalyst via the
graphical FeedBurner subscriber counter so the more people using FeedBurner
the better.

Also let me know if feeds readers have problems with redirects and if
redirecting the current feeds to FeedBurner would be a good idea.

Regards,
John

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John Wang
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