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[pgsql-advocacy] Updated 8.3 release, features
By Josh Berkus at Nov 6, 2007, 10:03 am UTC
All, I've edited the release some, and I think pending quotes the main body of the release just about to go. One thing we could really use, though, is some solid statistics about how 8.3 improves performance. I'm working on the extended release now, which is the part which goes on the website. I've... More...
All,
I've edited the release some, and I think pending quotes the main body
of the release just about to go.
One thing we could really use, though, is some solid statistics about
how 8.3 improves performance.
I'm working on the extended release now, which is the part which goes on
the website. I've added a separate features page because there are so
many of them:
http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/83ReleaseFeatures
This is based on the main 8.3 Features page. However, I think we need a
separate version of the page for the press, because:
a) it needs to be worded differently for marketing reasons, and
b) the list for the press should be shorter than the "geek" version.
If anyone can help me fix up that page to make it shorter and better
worded, then please help. We need to have the English text together
within the next 4-5 days, so it can be translated.
--Josh
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[pgsql-advocacy] New list for Name Change arguments; this list now moderated
By Josh Berkus at Nov 5, 2007, 8:43 pm UTC
All, Based on the complaints of numerous community members, I (and the other two moderators) am now moderating this list. I will be filtering out all messages which have anything to do with the name change. We will create a separate list for discussion of project nomenclature, so that the folks who... More...
All,
Based on the complaints of numerous community members, I (and the other
two moderators) am now moderating this list. I will be filtering out
all messages which have anything to do with the name change.
We will create a separate list for discussion of project nomenclature,
so that the folks who want to debate that can, without causing other
members of the community to get frustrated and unsubscibe from the list
(which is currently happening).
It really frustrates me to have to do this (I hate moderating, and I'm
about to have to do it from the road), but we can't afford for this list
to be disfunctional when we're trying to get out a release.
The new list for arguing about a name change is:
[email protected: change_the...@postgresql.org.] It should be available from the list
subscription interface soon, otherwise just go to:
http://mail.postgresql.org/mj/mj_wwwusr?domain=postgresql.org&func=lists-long-full&extra=change_the_name
Or send "subscribe change_the_name" to [email protected: lis...@postgresql.org]
--Josh Berkus
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[pgsql-advocacy] I would like to start a local PUG
By Santiago Zarate at Nov 1, 2007, 03:30 am UTC
Greetings, i am Santiago Zarate, a postgreSQL enthusiast from venezuela, and i would like to start a PUG. i already know about 10 people wanting to go with it... and well i would like some guidance, since its my first step with all this... any help/suggestion are going to be very very welcome More...
Greetings, i am Santiago Zarate, a postgreSQL enthusiast from venezuela, and
i would like to start a PUG. i already know about 10 people wanting to go
with it... and well i would like some guidance, since its my first step with
all this...
any help/suggestion are going to be very very welcome
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[pgsql-advocacy] Regional Contacts review?
By Josh Berkus at Oct 27, 2007, 10:00 pm UTC
Advocacy people, Hey, please take a look at this page: http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/contact 1) Are some of these contacts out of date? 2) Are there countries/regions where we should be adding new contacts? Thanks! More...
Advocacy people,
Hey, please take a look at this page:
http://www.postgresql.org/about/press/contact
1) Are some of these contacts out of date?
2) Are there countries/regions where we should be adding new contacts?
Thanks!
--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco
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[pgsql-advocacy] Now moderating out the "Postgres vs. PostgreSQL" messages
By Josh Berkus at Oct 26, 2007, 11:35 pm UTC
All, Based on the complaints of numerous community members, I (and the other two moderators) am now moderating this list. I will be filtering out all messages which have anything to do with the name change. We will create a separate list for discussion of project nomenclature, so that the folks who... More...
All,
Based on the complaints of numerous community members, I (and the other
two moderators) am now moderating this list. I will be filtering out
all messages which have anything to do with the name change.
We will create a separate list for discussion of project nomenclature,
so that the folks who want to debate that can, without causing other
members of the community to get frustrated and unsubscibe from the list
(which is currently happening).
It really frustrates me to have to do this (I hate moderating, and I'm
about to have to do it from the road), but we can't afford for this list
to be disfunctional when we're trying to get out a release.
--Josh Berkus
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Re: [pgsql-advocacy] First mention option for Postgres
By Andrew Sullivan at Oct 26, 2007, 10:46 pm UTC
I think there's nothing wrong with doing it in the FAQ. It's consistent with what the FAQ already says, and in any case it's what people have been doing informally for years. As I've suggested before (and as others have), I think doing it in formal documentation and such like without a longer-term... More...
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:25:09PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> PostgreSQL hereafter referred to as Postgres
> I propose that we could have the FAQ and the Docs do the same thing.
> The very first mention in these documents will same something to the
I think there's nothing wrong with doing it in the FAQ. It's
consistent with what the FAQ already says, and in any case it's what
people have been doing informally for years. As I've suggested
before (and as others have), I think doing it in formal documentation
and such like without a longer-term plan for communications is a bad
idea. But I will cheerfully shut up about it no matter what is
decided, especially since I'm not doing any of the work.
A
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Andrew Sullivan | [email protected: a...@crankycanuck.ca]
The very definition of "news" is "something that hardly ever happens."
--Bruce Schneier
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Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [DOCS] Pattern for use of the alias "Postgres"
By Andrew Sullivan at Oct 26, 2007, 10:44 pm UTC
I object to this declaration of consensus. I think there was an agreement that the FAQ entry we had, or perhaps something slightly stronger, was ok. "Promotion" is quite another matter, and I don't believe there was any such agreement. I recall arguing rather strongly that such an undertaking needs... More...
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 04:10:31PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Let's not get sidetracked here. There was already agreement in advocacy
> to promote the use of the alias, and this thread is to discuss that, not
I object to this declaration of consensus. I think there was an
agreement that the FAQ entry we had, or perhaps something slightly
stronger, was ok. "Promotion" is quite another matter, and I don't
believe there was any such agreement. I recall arguing rather
strongly that such an undertaking needs a _clear plan_ and that it
should not be in any case undertaken for 8.3, because the suggestion
came too late in the release cycle to put the necessary planning into
the matter.
What is the giant panic on this matter, anyway?
A
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Andrew Sullivan | [email protected: a...@crankycanuck.ca]
However important originality may be in some fields, restraint and
adherence to procedure emerge as the more significant virtues in a
great many others. --Alain de Botton
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[pgsql-advocacy] Release timeline for 8.3
By Josh Berkus at Oct 25, 2007, 9:24 pm UTC
All, Per request, I've drafted a "release timeline" which shows the timings and order in which everything needs to be done. It obviously doesn't have quite enough detail on the stuff which needs to be done over the last 4 days before the release. Help me fill it in?... More...
All,
Per request, I've drafted a "release timeline" which shows the timings and
order in which everything needs to be done. It obviously doesn't have quite
enough detail on the stuff which needs to be done over the last 4 days before
the release. Help me fill it in?
http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/MajorReleaseTimeline
--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco
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[pgsql-advocacy] Pattern for use of the alias "Postgres"
By Bruce Momjian at Oct 25, 2007, 7:48 pm UTC
You probably remember the discussion about promoting the use of the alias "Postgres" in addition to the official name "PostgreSQL". I have changed the FAQ so that in paragraphs with multiple references to "PostgreSQL" we also use the alias "Postgres". I have talked about a similar change to our... More...
[ BCC to docs because this might affect documentation too.]
You probably remember the discussion about promoting the use of the
alias "Postgres" in addition to the official name "PostgreSQL". I have
changed the FAQ so that in paragraphs with multiple references to
"PostgreSQL" we also use the alias "Postgres".
I have talked about a similar change to our documentation and perhaps
the web site, but I am _not_ ready to discuss those.
What I want to ask about is an idea a few people have mentioned. They
don't like that we change usage in the same paragraph. The suggestion
is to mention that "Postgres" is an alias to "PostgreSQL" at the top of
the document and just use "Postgres" in the remainder of the document.
This seems like a lot more use of the alias than I though we wanted as a
group, but because several of the people suggesting this also didn't
want the alias at all, I figure I should ask and we can discuss it.
So, for the FAQ, which currently uses the second-entry-per-paragraph
logic, should it be changed to the logic suggested above where every
mention but the first is "Postgres"? (This will of course affect the
documentation changes when we are ready to discuss those.)
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://postgres.enterprisedb.com
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[pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL Conference Fall 07 -- Registration Closed
By Joshua D. Drake at Oct 19, 2007, 10:43 pm UTC
Hello, Thanks to everyone who registered, the numbers are quite a bit above what we expected but alas, all good things come to an end (temporarily). Registration for the conference is now closed! See you all tomorrow morning! And of course, we can't but say at least one more final thank you to our... More...
Hello,
Thanks to everyone who registered, the numbers are quite a bit above
what we expected but alas, all good things come to an end (temporarily).
Registration for the conference is now closed!
See you all tomorrow morning!
And of course, we can't but say at least one more final thank you to
our sponsors:
Command Prompt - http://www.commandprompt.com/
Continuent - http://www.continuent.com/
EnterpriseDB - http://www.enterprisedb.com/
GreenPlum - http://www.greenplum.com/
Hyperic - http://www.hyperic.com/
LinuxFund - http://www.linuxfund.org/
OmniTI - http://www.omniti.com/
OTG - http://www.otg-nc.com/
Sun - http://www.sun.com/
Truviso - http://www.truviso.com/
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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[pgsql-advocacy] 8.3 release, writers wanted!
By Josh Berkus at Oct 17, 2007, 8:53 pm UTC
Folks, I've started serious work on the 8.3 release draft. You can find a lot of additonal text here: http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/8.3release#8.3_Release_Draft I could really, really use some help with drafting. I'm running out of new hyperbole with which to extol PostgreSQL; new... More...
Folks,
I've started serious work on the 8.3 release draft. You can find a lot
of additonal text here:
http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/8.3release#8.3_Release_Draft
I could really, really use some help with drafting. I'm running out of
new hyperbole with which to extol PostgreSQL; new blood/talent would help.
--Josh
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[pgsql-advocacy] Sun releases for us?
By Magnus Hagander at Oct 16, 2007, 7:58 pm UTC
Speaking of PR departments, it seems Sun Microsystems just released our beta for us ;-) http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2198253,00.asp This just goes to prove that all PR departments (including Berkus :P) and all journalists make this kind of mistakes :) You might want to correct it though.... More...
Speaking of PR departments, it seems Sun Microsystems just released our
beta for us ;-)
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2198253,00.asp
This just goes to prove that all PR departments (including Berkus :P) and
all journalists make this kind of mistakes :) You might want to correct
it though.
/Magnus
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[pgsql-advocacy] Security with PostgreSQL
By Serge.Perrier at Oct 16, 2007, 3:27 pm UTC
Hi , I have questions, described above, about Security with postgreSQL : Security: To analyse PostgreSQL through the following 3 requirements: 1. Authentication integration with existing authentication such as Windows, Kerberos, etc. 2. Authorisation How does the app/db restrict access rights to... More...
Hi ,
I have questions, described above, about Security with postgreSQL :
Security:
To analyse PostgreSQL through the following 3 requirements:
1. Authentication
integration with existing authentication such as Windows, Kerberos,
etc.
2. Authorisation
How does the app/db restrict access rights to certain group of users
3. Accountability
Audit trail - linking users to all transactions.
Thanks for your quick answer.
Rds,
Serge Perrier
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[pgsql-advocacy] COSSFEST event in Calgary
By bogi at Oct 15, 2007, 3:28 pm UTC
Hi, I am looking for a speaker or more from the postgres community to present at our event at Calgary Alberta Canada on the 27.October 2007. I would be Szemir Khangyi the current V.P. of CLUG (Calgary Linux Users group). We would also welcome corporate presence at this event, with different... More...
Hi,
I am looking for a speaker or more from the postgres community to present at
our event at Calgary Alberta Canada on the 27.October 2007.
I would be Szemir Khangyi the current V.P. of CLUG (Calgary Linux Users
group).
We would also welcome corporate presence at this event, with different
sponsorship packages available. Please reply to my e-mail address, since i am
not subscribed to your mailing list.
More info is available at: http://www.cossfest.ca/
Cheers
Szemir
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[pgsql-advocacy] Interesting pro-postgres article on reddit
By Brian Hurt at Oct 15, 2007, 02:28 am UTC
I haven't noticed anyone else posting it, and thought it'd interest this group: http://jamonation.com/node/734 Short form: guy redesigns his site to use Postgresql instead of Mysql site, across the board faster... Brian ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 9:... More...
I haven't noticed anyone else posting it, and thought it'd interest this
group:
http://jamonation.com/node/734
Short form: guy redesigns his site to use Postgresql instead of Mysql
(using MyISAM, even) and discovered that Postgresql is, at least for his
site, across the board faster...
Brian
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[pgsql-advocacy] Release notes introductory text
By Bruce Momjian at Oct 11, 2007, 9:12 pm UTC
to do this.] I have added the following introductory paragraph to the release notes: This release represents a major leap forward by adding significant new functionality and performance enhancements to <productname>PostgreSQL</>. Many complex ideas that normally take years to implement were added... More...
[ BCC to docs and hackers. Sorry this seems like the only logical way
to do this.]
I have added the following introductory paragraph to the release notes:
This release represents a major leap forward by adding significant new
functionality and performance enhancements to
<productname>PostgreSQL</>. Many complex ideas that normally take years
to implement were added rapidly to this release by our development team.
This release starts <productname>PostgreSQL</> on a trajectory moving
beyond feature-parity with other database systems to a time when
<productname>PostgreSQL</> will be a technology leader in the database
field. Major new capabilities in this release include:
The full release text with my edits to "major" and "migration" sections
is included:
http://momjian.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/release-8-3.html
Comments?
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://postgres.enterprisedb.com
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Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Release notes introductory text
By Bruce Momjian at Oct 11, 2007, 8:36 pm UTC
Yep, fixed. ... More...
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> "Fortunately, most of these enhancements are automatic and require user
> changes or tuning:"
>
> ITYM "... do not require ..."
Yep, fixed.
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> cheers
>
> andrew
>
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > [ BCC to docs and hackers. Sorry this seems like the only logical way
> > to do this.]
> >
> > I have added the following introductory paragraph to the release notes:
> >
> > This release represents a major leap forward by adding significant new
> > functionality and performance enhancements to
> > <productname>PostgreSQL</>. Many complex ideas that normally take years
> > to implement were added rapidly to this release by our development team.
> > This release starts <productname>PostgreSQL</> on a trajectory moving
> > beyond feature-parity with other database systems to a time when
> > <productname>PostgreSQL</> will be a technology leader in the database
> > field. Major new capabilities in this release include:
> >
> > The full release text with my edits to "major" and "migration" sections
> > is included:
> >
> > http://momjian.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/release-8-3.html
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> >
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Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://postgres.enterprisedb.com
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[pgsql-advocacy] We aren't a relational database ... ?
By Marc G. Fournier at Oct 11, 2007, 02:41 am UTC
"How many open source relational databases can you name? My friend Gabrielle recently sent me the links to two of them. However, if you?re like most technical people, you probably don?t know any ? just as I didn?t until recently. I can already imagine many of you saying ?bulls**t?, what about MySQL... More...
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recently sent me the links to two of them. However, if you?re like most
technical people, you probably don?t know any ? just as I didn?t until
recently. I can already imagine many of you saying ?bulls**t?, what about MySQL
and PostgreSQL?? (to name just two), but those are just databases, not
relational databases."
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<http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2007/10/open_source_relational_databas.html?CMP=OTC-3W3B95036222&ATT=Open+Source+Relational+Databases>
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