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  • Hi JSR 277 experts, This is to let you know that today is my last day at Sun. It has been a great pleasure to work with all of you, and I really appreciate the contributions all of you have made in ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Oct 10, 2008 at 3:33 pm
    Oct 10, 2008 at 3:33 pm
  • There are a number of class loading optimizations (including HotSpot's Class Data Sharing) that are hard to make generic due to the lack of a standard way to validate cached class state. We have a ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Aug 12, 2008 at 4:22 pm
    Aug 12, 2008 at 4:22 pm
  • I believe we need a mechanism to extract a deployment module from a Repository. This would enable: 1. Provisioning systems to copy from a remote repository to a local instance. 2. Migration of all ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Jul 8, 2008 at 10:14 am
    Jul 21, 2008 at 8:28 pm
  • The design of this class seems broken to me with the addition of two "types". Why not: 1. Make ImportDependency abstract, removing the getType() and newX methods. 2. Make ImportPackage and ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Jun 11, 2008 at 1:11 pm
    Jun 26, 2008 at 3:24 pm
  • (FYI: I've discussed this with Stanley but wanted to ensure it was visible to everyone.) Proposal 1. Eliminate runtime use of import-by-module in the JAM system: a. Support the (very convenient) ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Jun 10, 2008 at 6:27 pm
    Jun 13, 2008 at 1:10 pm
  • Hi Stanley, Thank you for providing this proposal. I think that it looks quite reasonable. Once we have an implementation (are you working on one?), we should have a look at details like: what ...
    Michal CierniakMichal Cierniak
    Jun 9, 2008 at 11:39 pm
    Jun 17, 2008 at 4:51 pm
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, Here is the schedule for JSR 277 and related talks by EG members at JavaOne next week: * TS-6185: Modularity in Java? Platform Wednesday 5/7/2008 10:50 AM -11:50 AM * BOF-5032 ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 1, 2008 at 1:48 pm
    May 1, 2008 at 1:48 pm
  • Dear 277 observers, The original message is too big for this observer list, so I forward the original message with first attachment only. If any of you are interested in getting the latest API ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Apr 28, 2008 at 10:06 pm
    Apr 29, 2008 at 1:46 pm
  • Dear 277 and 294 experts, This is to announce that Alex Buckley and Stanley Ho will be co-spec leads for JSR 277 as soon as the JCP PMO processes the change. To ensure that all experts can follow ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Apr 18, 2008 at 6:10 pm
    Apr 23, 2008 at 6:06 am
  • This EG has stagnated and needs to be brought back to life. I'd like to propose these concrete steps: 1. Add Peter Kriens to the EG. Peter has clearly demonstrated great expertise in this area, and I ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Apr 18, 2008 at 11:13 am
    Apr 18, 2008 at 6:11 pm
  • I propose that we re-organize and update the next draft of the spec to achieve the following: 1. Clearly identify and separate the two main elements of the spec: a. Framework (i.e. api/spi) b ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Apr 17, 2008 at 5:47 pm
    Apr 18, 2008 at 7:32 am
  • Hi experts, As we discussed in the EG, we would like to make JSR 277 interoperable with other module systems (e.g. OSGi, NetBeans, etc.). We have been building prototypings to figure out how it ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Apr 2, 2008 at 10:27 pm
    May 15, 2008 at 11:44 am
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, For those of you who are interested in the current state of the JSR development, here is a brief status update: 1. Updated Specification I've been updating the specification based ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Feb 21, 2008 at 11:21 am
    Feb 21, 2008 at 11:21 am
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, I would like to welcome BJ Hargrave <hargrave at us.ibm.com to our EG! He will be the new IBM representative on JSR 277, replacing Glyn Normington who has recently left IBM. BJ, ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Feb 14, 2008 at 2:43 pm
    Feb 14, 2008 at 2:43 pm
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, Just FYI. Andreas and Alex (i.e. JSR 294 spec leads) have recently submitted the spec to the JCP PMO for Early Draft Review, and the spec will be published jcp.org in about two ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Nov 6, 2007 at 9:51 pm
    Nov 6, 2007 at 9:51 pm
  • The OSGi RFP 83 [1][2] contains serialization requirements that may also be relevant to this JSR. For example, perhaps we should consider some implementation of ObjectOutputStream.annotateClass() ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Sep 17, 2007 at 7:56 pm
    Sep 18, 2007 at 2:44 am
  • The OSGi RFP 83 [1][2] contains Thread context class loader requirements that are clearly relevant to this JSR. Based on a great deal of painful experience with the use/misuse of the thread context ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Sep 17, 2007 at 7:55 pm
    Dec 5, 2007 at 10:18 am
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, I would like to welcome Pavel Genevski <pavel.genevski at sap.com to our EG! Pavel will replace Georgi Danov as the official SAP representative for JSR 277. Pavel, welcome abroad! ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Sep 6, 2007 at 9:08 pm
    Sep 6, 2007 at 9:08 pm
  • Hi Stanley Please could you provide an update on your work on interoperation between JSR 277 and JSR 291? If the work is still in progress, how's it coming along and roughly when might there be a ...
    Glyn NormingtonGlyn Normington
    Sep 6, 2007 at 8:16 am
    Sep 7, 2007 at 1:19 am
  • Hi experts and observers, We have just made an early snapshot of the JSR 277 and 294 implementation available through the Modules project on openjdk: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/modules/ This ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Jun 28, 2007 at 12:38 am
    Jun 28, 2007 at 12:38 am
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, Since we have been discussing some issues around the module instances' lifetime lately, I think it's probably a good time to bring up a related topic for discussion. As I reviewed ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    Jun 21, 2007 at 6:10 pm
    Aug 18, 2007 at 2:33 pm
  • Hi Stanley Please could you give us an update on your work on interoperation with JSR 291 and some idea of when a strawman is likely to be available for initial review by the JSR 277 Expert Group? ...
    Glyn NormingtonGlyn Normington
    Jun 20, 2007 at 2:25 am
    Jun 21, 2007 at 1:59 am
  • Given a list of ModuleDefinition instances, it is obvious how a Repository implementation can do a *linear* search using Query: private List<ModuleDefinition definitions; public List<ModuleDefinition ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Jun 11, 2007 at 3:22 pm
    Jun 11, 2007 at 3:22 pm
  • Currently the spec provides a somewhat odd mix of functionality here... 1. Module name. We have declaration syntax (superpackage name) and runtime support for using a module name as a constraint ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    Jun 4, 2007 at 11:38 am
    Jun 12, 2007 at 4:39 pm
  • I'd like to continue this discussion separately from the 291/import-by-package thread :^). To recap, the spec (sections 1.2, 6.1, 6.4) talks about using separate Repository instances as a means to ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    May 31, 2007 at 3:52 pm
    Jun 20, 2007 at 5:58 pm
  • Hi all, Stanley and I gave a talk about JSR-277 at Google. The talk was videotaped and is now available on Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8224544168880829029 This is exactly ...
    Michal CierniakMichal Cierniak
    May 29, 2007 at 11:14 am
    May 29, 2007 at 11:14 am
  • This is a repost to sync up the EG observer mailing list. - Stanley -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Relationship to JSR 291 [was: Re: Bryan's comments] Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 11:00:16 ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 25, 2007 at 3:29 pm
    May 25, 2007 at 3:33 pm
  • When I designed the Query/Repository model in the prototype, I had it firmly in my mind that Query should be Serializable, so that it could be sent over the wire to a remote repository. I've ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    May 23, 2007 at 11:14 am
    Jun 4, 2007 at 10:37 pm
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, This is regarding the semantic of exported resources in a module, and it is one of the outstanding issues in the updated specification (Section 7.3.2.2) that I would like to get ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 23, 2007 at 2:59 am
    Jun 13, 2007 at 11:17 am
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, I'll be away starting tomorrow for about two weeks. During this period, I'll be mostly traveling (a few days on vacation) and have limited access to emails. I will try to continue ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 22, 2007 at 11:16 pm
    May 22, 2007 at 11:16 pm
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, I've been working with Peter von de Ahe and Dave Bristor in the Java SE Tools and Libraries team to come up with a strawman for the services and service-providers support. This ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 22, 2007 at 3:54 pm
    Jun 20, 2007 at 3:16 pm
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, I have received a new EDR comment [1] late last week, and I've uploaded the comment to the Confluence. The comment in [1] is around simplification in using annotations for ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 22, 2007 at 12:55 pm
    May 22, 2007 at 12:55 pm
  • Hey Stanley, More comments inline. // Bryan Stanley M. Ho wrote: Yes, the 277 spec should describe it as mandatory, and we should enforce it at runtime. If it becomes possible to enforce it a compile ...
    Bryan AtsattBryan Atsatt
    May 21, 2007 at 6:21 pm
    Jun 11, 2007 at 4:44 pm
  • Hi, Apparently, my email problem has just been fixed, but you will now receive all the emails that I attempted to send/re-send in the last few days - please ignore them. Sorry for any confusion. - ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 18, 2007 at 3:27 pm
    May 25, 2007 at 3:56 pm
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, This is another reminder. If you still have inputs on the i18n strawman, please send them in as soon as possible. In case you need more time to review the strawman, please let me ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 18, 2007 at 12:41 pm
    May 21, 2007 at 2:50 pm
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, This is regarding the semantic of legacy classes in a module, and is one of the outstanding issues in the updated specification (Section 2.14) that I would like to get your ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 15, 2007 at 7:01 pm
    May 19, 2007 at 10:52 am
  • Stanley, Do you also think that JSR-294 will have to understand re-exports to correctly enforce information hiding at compile time? If so, do you expect that if module A imports and re-exports module ...
    Michal CierniakMichal Cierniak
    May 14, 2007 at 3:40 pm
    May 14, 2007 at 10:13 pm
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, This is a kindly reminder. If you have inputs on the i18n strawman, please send them in by 5/21/2007. Even if you have reviewed the strawman and have no comments, it would still ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 14, 2007 at 2:54 pm
    May 17, 2007 at 12:11 pm
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, Just an update. This EG mailing list has been hooked up with the observer list over the weekend, and you will find the public mailing list archive here ...
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 14, 2007 at 12:36 pm
    Jun 13, 2007 at 11:24 am
  • Hi JSR 277 experts, If you still have any input on the updated early draft specification, please send them in as soon as possible. Thanks, - Stanley
    Stanley M. HoStanley M. Ho
    May 14, 2007 at 12:17 pm
    May 14, 2007 at 12:17 pm
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